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« on: August 03, 2008, 10:37:07 AM »




21 and Under Convention....
I just got back from speaking at the 21 and under convention. I spoke for about an hour on college game. I couldn't remember how long I was expected to speak so I prepared about 5 hours of content. 5 hours of college game, hmm........ future product?


I love speaking about college game because it's definitely my bag. Several of the principles Mr. M and I developed for our Social Circle Mastery seminar were born out of my college experience.


I like speaking to the younger guys. They have a lot of energy and they are fired up to learn this stuff. It's impossible not to feed off of that when you are speaking. I'm a little jealous. I wish I would have found this stuff when I was a freshman in college. Jesus! On second thought......maybe it's better that I didn't. I would probably be the baby daddy of like 30 kids.


I spent most of my speech trying to hit the highlights of what I wish someone would have told me when I started college. I also spent a fair amount time trying to MURDER the sacred cows of classic pickup dogma. I think the worst thing that a young guy can do on a college campus is run around trying to emulate what he learned in The Game. (I Love The Game it changed my life) but trying to develop a super hero pickup persona has it's time and place, but a college campus is not one of them. As a matter of fact that is the worst place to try and develop one.


At Love Systems we advise college guys and anyone gaming within the confines of a small social circle to learn the basic structure outlined in Savoy's book Magic Bullets, but to ditch all the lame old guard community dogma including but not limited to, peacocking, ALWAYS trying to control the frame, opening every set, having 300 DHV stories, and amoging guys for no reason.


I teach guys that in college game and in Social Circle Mastery you are much better DHV'ing by first getting your sub communications under control and second by letting other people observe you in multiple high value situations. The ultimate DHV is creating a 'Buzz' about you. In Social Circle Mastery we define buzz as having people talk about you when you aren't around. This trumps any weak DHV story you might develop.


DHV stories.....

In the words of Chris Rock.... "You ain't got to lie to kick it."
DHV stories were developed for cold approach because you have one shot at making it happen in cold approach so you don't have weeks or months to develop 'Buzz.' Therefore, you have to tell DHV stories in order to convey your personality in 30 minutes or less. This is why cold approach is such an art form and why it is so tough.


But in social circle or college game you run a high risk of looking insecure, like a braggart, or like you are lying if you constantly look for places where you can slide in a DHV stories.


"But but but, Braddock, I have this friend and he tells the best stories and girls love him and and and he says cold approach, frame setting, and deep comfort are the be all end all of game! He's the SELF proclaimed best ever!"


Yuck. Don't care. Ask him for pictures of these girls. I'm telling you from first hand experience if you want the hottest girls in your social circle, running fast paced cold approach game is the WORST option. It's not even the second or third best option. If you have access to a stable of hot girls you are going to see on a semi regular basis, RUN SOCIAL CIRCLE GAME!!!!!!!

Fuck your friend.


"But..but...but...Braddock you teach cold approach. Why do you knock it so hard? You are hurting my feelings and making my friend upset."


Awww tell your friend I'm sorry. I promise not to hit on any of his 5's or 6's. I actually love cold approach. I have spent the last few years of my life mastering it. I would never try to convince someone not to learn it. If you travel, live in a major city and don't frequent the same venues, or are not in college it may be the only means of meeting women you have. If that is the case then social circle game is not possible for you. I understand. I have mastered both because I think cold approach is a blast but I have realized that it doesn't have to be a way of life.


Hunting vs Farming...... Evolution of society
I like to think of cold approach as hunting and social circle game as farming.


Hunting...
It is a necessary skill all men should posses, but in a progressive society it slowly becomes more of a sport or a right of passage and less and less of a means for survival. When you are hunting you have to kill something every time you are hungry. Sometimes it's the biggest best trophy animal of the herd and sometimes it's the disease ridden runt. You may have to take what you can get because you don't know when you will eat next. Every time you go out and don't kill something you become hungrier and hungrier. When you could be spending that time laying inroads for access to bigger better hunting ground, you aren't even thinking on those terms because you are starving!


Farming...
When you farm you do a lot of work up front followed by intermittent maintenance. Then when you are ready to harvest you come back and pick the best crops and throw away the weaker crops.


Omnivore...
When you combine the two this is true power. You have a harvest of crops growing, but you can go hunting for fun to see if you can find the trophy of the herd.


Basically......... LEARN BOTH!!!!!!!!!


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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2008, 07:10:08 PM »

I absoloutly love college. I personally want to pull a Van Weilder and never leave. Unfortunatly, that's just a movie. The drinking that gets done. Oh my God. I'm drunk now! and it's not even midnight, and school hasn't started yet! Good fucking typing right?

A college campus is the easiest place on earth to get laid. I am moving on campus in a year because I'm there so much crashing my friend's parties.

If you decide to make a college game program, make sure you tell people it's OKAY to buy the beer. A lot of programs say, "Don't buy drinks!!! They won't respect you". Well, when I show up with a 40 of jaggermeister and a 12 pack of redbulls, I am like that dude, from every bible story for every religion.

Also, you CAN get laid if you can beer bong a 24 of anything. It just takes practice not to throw up.

Personally, I would pay big money, (or download it illegally, cause I'm a poor student) for info on the best universities to live at, the best frat houses to join, etc.

Just don't get into World of Warcraft. I've lost good men to that game... 
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2008, 11:06:07 AM »

I like your hunting vs. farming metaphor Braddock and would like to add my own two cents:

Hunting...
comes down to success FOR yourself, created BY yourself.

Examples: a) success models that you imitate, differentiate and finally innovate, b) outer game skills such as wardrobe, working out..c) character traits, d) displaying higher value, etc.

Farming...
comes down to success FOR the group, BY the group and WITH the group.

Examples: a) meeting women through your social circle, b) team up with other men as wingmen or a mastermind group, c) being the local maximum: throwing parties etc. and d) even bisexual women through whom you meet other women!

Hunting vs. farming is a matter of short term versus long term success...and any man should focus on integrating BOTH into his game!
I could even analyze relationships through this frame: one night stands vs. friends with benefits, multiple short relationships for WIDTH of sexual experience vs. one or a few long relationships for DEPTH of sexual experience, etc.

Just my thoughts =)
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