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The Truth About Wayne Elise & Charisma Arts: The Sequel

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First of all, to address some of the earlier comments made by other readers, please note that my actual first article begins after the heading and the introductory paragraph that were both written by Donovan, and the intended title of what I originally wrote is “Farewell to Juggler”. My motivation for writing that article was purely emotional: I wanted to examine the feelings I have toward my former co-worker, and express the one that truly matters: my respect to him.

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What Is With The Bad Leadership Within The Community?

First, Mystery parted ways with business partner after business partner. First, someone, then Savoy, then Mike Long of Area 51 Lifestyle. These splits usually ending up hurting Mystery more than anyone.

Now, Wayne Elise has followed Mystery’s example. Wayne Elise split with Christian Hudson about two years ago, and now has had a falling out with his lead instructor Dan.

Here’s Dan’s post of which Thundercat made me aware:

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The Master The Vibe/Wayne Elise Controversy

Apparently, Wayne Elise has it out for Master The Vibe. As you know, one of the founders of Charisma Arts, Christian Hudson, created Master The Vibe with a fellow friend in the community, Sebastian Drake of theApproach.

Well… they have a recurring billing cycle in which they send you the latest monthly product, not unlike many companies (Double Your Dating, Mystery Method, every porn site ever). To me, this seems like a sensible option for many guys that want the latest conversational techniques without much hassle. This is a common business practice, especially with the advent of online billing systems.

A customer canceled his subscription of Master The Vibe, and got billed. So he contacted the company, they refunded him and admitted blame with a personal apology to him. Then Wayne Elise (Juggler) weighs in with his opinion on Charisma Arts forum (with Sebastian Drakes rebuttal) about the Master The Vibe co-founder :

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Charisma Arts on Nightline

Charisma Arts were featured on Nightline recently. I’ve finally found the video where Johnny Saviour and all of them are doing there thing. They didn’t have Wayne Elise on the show which was disappointing. If you’re looking for more information on Charisma Arts, as well as their coaches personal blogs, go to their website.

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