You may have heard of this emerging star in the seduction community before. Magic helped coach with Brad P, was on David Deangelo’s Man Transformation program, and has a unique perspective on the seduction community we’re all a part of. After seeing Magic infield, I realized this was coach that men need to learn from. He’s direct, unapologetic and gets results… FAST. Leave your thoughts in the comments below.

How did you get started in the seduction community?

I came from India about 10 years back. After I came to this country nothing was working for me. I tried to date many women but it never worked out. I was too desperate. I took this girl to Vegas with me. Stayed in the biggest suite in Mirage, bought her a $4000 diamond bracelet and took her on a private helicopter tour to Grand Canyon. I thought this would be my ticket to her. The very same night she was having sex with another guy she met in Vegas in the same room that I paid for.

I tried meeting women many more times but it never worked. I got convinced that my Indian ethnicity was limiting me from succeeding. I thought women in this country only go for tall, blonde hair, blue eyed and muscular guys. I started to think this was it. I was never going to get any other woman for the rest of my life.

I got lucky. One day a woman approached me at a bar in San Francisco. She was curious about my background. She ended up offering to teach me. She took me to bars and clubs for one week and trained me the way I now train my students. She gave a jump start to my dating life. I never had to look back after that day. I was getting laid left and right. I was having threesomes and orgies. Women were inviting me to pleasure parties.

When I moved to Los Angeles to make a film, I ended up working for Savoy (Love Systems) in the back office. I realized that I can be a lot of help to men with my skills and knowledge. My ability to relate to students, noticing their sticking points and advancing them to next level got noticed by lot of friends and professionals who advised me to get into business of helping men.

What was the biggest change in your own life that helped you become successful with women?

It is really hard to point to single factor that contributed to my success. It was a combination of things that had to be addressed. These are different for different people. They usually crop from your upbringing, childhood experiences present and future goals. As Yoda from Star Wars will say I had to unlearn what I had learned and build a new belief system and lifestyle.

I had to work on re evaluate and re draw my belief system and values. I had to identify messages that were preventing me from taking the next step and pushing forward. I had to draw a future road map. I had to pretty much do all the inner game exercises I make students do in the first few chapters of Social Mastery.

I had to then work on my social and seduction skills. If I had to point to one thing it would be making the mind set to take chances. I kept pushing myself, testing my boundaries, trying new styles of interaction to see what comes out of them. I was more often than not surprised by pleasant and positive responses.

For example most people out there before going for the kiss usually say something like: “I feel like kissing you” or “Would you like to kiss”. By making these statements they are actually testing the water to see how she responds. When in reality men should simply look into a woman’s eyes. Make extended eye contact, slowly pull her toward them and go for the kiss. It is more manly, romantic and seductive. Ask any woman and she will tell you that she rather be kissed than asked for her permission. Very often she will just kiss you even if she is not a 100% sure because it turns her on. However you can only do this if you feel secure and do not take rejections personally.

It was learning these new behaviors and having the mindset to succeed with women that was a huge break trough for me. This is exactly what we do for our students through various products and training. There is a reason why we have highest number of students getting laid within one week of training than any other company out there. In fact last year we had 3 out of 4 students sleep with women within one week of training if not during the session. And these are verifiable results.

I’ve seen you in bars. Women melt unexplainably. What are your general tactics and techniques for attracting women?

You have to have all elements in control to succeed with women. You need to know the most effective way to communicate your sexual desires for her. You need to have the skill set to decode her signs and respond appropriately. You need to know exact timing to advance your interaction to the next level and you need to know how to lead a woman to where you want her to be.

This is why instead of giving general advice like go for the kiss when she is attracted to you I give concrete identifiable measures. For example if you have executed 3-4 level 2 kino from our Kino escalation model and the woman has not objected then you know it is time to go for the kiss. If she says no but continues to stay with you, usually it means she was not ready for the kiss but is still into you else she would have left. At this point test her attraction and go for the kiss again and usually it will happen the second time.

The idea is to understand how seduction works in the minds of women. Then calibrate your moves so she feels seduced. What you saw me doing was nothing extraordinary. I was talking the most generic things that people advocate against talking yet I was getting attraction and so were all my students. The key was not the conversation topics but how they were being used to convey confidence and sexuality.

My system is all about being a man, not being ashamed of your sexual desires and calibrating your moves to where this woman stands. This comes across as more natural, real and effective. As you watched yourself how women were getting attracted and how my students were making progress with women during the first night of training.

Was there a moment when you finally realized you had become good with women. What happened?

I had been good with women for a long time. I was having threesomes and regular booty calls. I was sleeping with my professor and therapist so I knew I was successful with women. However I had set a different bench mark to measure my success.

Before I became good with women I went to this place in San Francisco called “Velvet Lounge”. I was watching this guy dance and literally grope a woman who pushed him away. In my mind I was laughing at this guy for being sexually aggressive. Few minutes later I witnessed two women literally fighting over this guy. I was shocked. The guy I thought to be a loser has two gorgeous women fighting over him and won’t be surprised if he ended up pulling them both home that night.

I left the venue because it made me feel down. I ended up making a promise to myself that the day two women fight over me will be the day I will finally call myself successful with women.

This happened in January of 2008. I went to the bar in the lobby for hotel ‘W’ in San Francisco with a female friend of mine. I’ll spare the details of the story but that night every woman there was approaching me. A young 21 year old woman walked up to me and introduced herself to me. Within seconds two women who had opened me and were friends with each other jumped on me.

Both sat on my lap and started to hump me for over 5 minutes. When they were done the 21 year old who just walked up to me ended up telling them that there was no need to put up this show and they could have just told her to walk away. An argument started and I was like “YEAH” because I had finally achieved my goal. I had so high value that night that I could have pulled all of them together and they would have complied. I know it is a silly benchmark to have but it is what it is.

What is the biggest problem holding men back from being able to attract beautiful women?

Again it is different for different people. I do not believe that every student has the same problem this is why I do not teach standard program to all students. Every workshop is catered to participating students. What was holding me may not be what is holding you. This is why we plan the structure of our workshop after meeting the participating students.

However most of it would boil down to men not making a commitment and taking steps to improve their lives. Almost everyone looks for a magic bullet to get women. They would rather focus on lines and routines as opposed to mastering the principals underlying those routines to generate attraction.

If you truly want to succeed with women in the long run you need to work on yourself. Address your limited beliefs, understand how seduction works and then practice the new knowledge. Seduction is easy! Dating beautiful women is very doable on regular basis. It takes commitment and discipline for a little while.
This is also the reason I do not teach everyone. In order to take a 1 on 1 session with me students have to go through a phone interview with me. If I find that they are not committed to make a change and get this area of their life handled then I do not teach them. I do not want to waste three days of my life and have no results for them.

Anyone who wants to make progress has to be committed and willing to take action. If they continue to be same then they will continue to experience the same results for the most part.

You’ve started running bootcamps. What would a guy expect if he were to train with you?

Do not come to me with any expectations. The only thing I will guarantee is that I will give you my 100%. I will give you only valid and effective information. You will get information that I practice.

If you are looking for a standard program this is not for you. If you are looking for someone who will sit with you over the next three days and tell you how cool you are, don’t come to me. I will tell you to your face if your breadth smells so you can fix it. I believe students pay me so much money and time to identify their weaknesses and solutions to address them.

I will first evaluate you. See where you stand with women. I want to see how women react to you when you approach them. It is then that I will decide what needs to be covered over the next few days to get you success with women.

It works for me to cuss in my sets. My dress up makes women expect cussing from me. But that won’t work for you. This why once I see what women see in you then I can tweak your approach to get them see value in you and feel attracted to you.

I do not teach manipulation. I openly say that I will not teach anything I would not want to happen to my mother, sister or daughter. I will not teach you how to build value at the venue. I will instead work on you to transform you into a guy who is desirable by women. If techniques alone would bring results everyone would be getting laid reading them online or in the books.

The key to winning women is to become a guy who is desirable by women. Then approach them and use the techniques that generate attraction. But these will only work if you have no hang ups and feel good about yourself.

In my workshop I will cover everything from inner game to seduction techniques. What exactly will be given depends on the group. My coaching style is rough and I will push the hell out of you to the next level. Your fear to approach women because your dad beat you when you were a kid has no bearing on me. I will drag you and have you approach women. if you were to touch her or kiss her and you did not do it. I will take you back in the set and make you do it. Fear and excuses have no room in my workshops.

I will pretty much break your bad habits and build new habits that will help you succeed with women. Now you know why my students get laid so fast. They take lot of abuse from me.

Why would someone take a bootcamp from you over all the other companies that do this?

As I mentioned earlier no one has to take a session with me. The only reason you will come to me is because you are ready to make some serious changes. You do not want some general theory but concrete steps calibrated to you to push you to the next level with women.

I usually address my students as Marines of dating. They go through lot of abuse and hard work during the session but once they are done they are unstoppable. Not everyone is ready to be pushed this hard. Many students want to take time and baby steps to become good. I have no patience for that. I believe my job is to break your fears and advance your progress with women.

You will come to me not because I can get laid but because you want to get laid. If you read student reviews on most company websites they are about how fun the workshop was or good the instructor was. I haven’t seen one site where students talk about the success they have achieved.

Most programs out there are designed to show students what can be done. Our program is not about what we can do but what we can do for you. It is of no consequence to you if I got laid with the hottest women on planet. The question is can I get you laid? This is why you come to me. You come to me because you want to succeed with women and not because I am successful with women. Whether you read Social Mastery Book, watch Day Game or Same Night Lay DVDs you will find the information is all about helping you progress by taking specific steps.

This is evident with the student reviews and testimonies on our website. In 2009 3 out of 4 students I taught ended up sleeping with women within one week of the training if not during the training itself. All testimonies are verifiable. We are the only company who specifically address their student to write an honest testimony as opposed to a nice testimony. We tell them that someone will spend money based on their review and they should not write anything that will bring bad karma to them. I am openly writing it here to have someone challenge me if I am lying.

Short answer: Come to me when you are ready to be pushed to next level with women.

Why do you think other companies don’t get the results you do?

I wouldn’t say other companies don’t get results. They get results they aim for. As I mentioned many companies out there aim to show their game as opposed to show what they can do for students.

I also believe that not everyone is capable of giving the therapy treatment. Meaning lot of coaches, though good with women, do not know what is stopping their students from succeeding with women. Hence they can’t offer a customized solution to their students. This is why many companies give you a system that has worked for them and their coaches. They want you to keep practicing it till you can master it.

The problem with it is that not every student is willing to give up their personality and lifestyle and put on the suit offered by these methods. Students can only be effective if they feel that what they are doing truly represents them. They should feel self as opposed to Magic when they approach women.

I personally believe that in order for your student to succeed you have to come down to their level and give them what will work for them as opposed to asking them to climb the ladder and come to your level.

Can you relate a few examples of an ‘amazing result’ that one of your coaching clients had?

I can write a book on the success my students have achieved. I trained an ‘A’ list rock star that could not approach women on his own despite his success. We were able to fix it for him. I have numerous students who went from zero to having threesomes within a month. I have had a student who had taken boot camp with another company and was getting thrown out of every bar and club. This company made him super aggressive. I mellowed him don and he ended up having his first same night lay the night of the training where he ended up having sex with a woman in his car right in Hollywood. I had a student who has been in community for over 9 years. This guy has taken sessions from every company out there. It took us 3 days to get him to the level to get same night lay. There many amazing success stories. I’ve done up a bunch of case studies for guys to read.

You have a 100% Money Back Guarantee if people ask on the last day of your bootcamp. Has anyone taken you up on that, if so, what happened?

So far we have had not a single student ask for a refund. I have been coaching since 2008 and it feels good to make this statement.

Why are your bootcamps so cheap compared to other companies?

Our boot camps used to be way cheaper. Initially we wanted people to take a chance on us so we can show the world what we can do. Now as our name is building and our students our students are getting success our prices are beginning to go up. People who took advantage of us remind us of this every time we meet them. For example my 1 on 1 used to be $600 in 2008. They are currently $1497 and will be $5000 pretty soon. They are still a great deal because our coaching unlike other programs is life transforming. Not only do we turn you in to Casanovas but like many guys know it effects all aspects of your life.

Our group workshops are also going up in prices soon since wanna be able to continue serving students and being able to live comfortably doing so.

We are still a bargain even with rising prices. What we teach in three days is something no other company in the world can teach. Unlike other companies we only teach 4 student 2 instructor boot camps to be able to make them effective for our students. Unfortunate side of this is that we cannot afford to continue this model for little money. I will never have more students but then it means I have to charge more to survive.

If you had one bit of advice for my readers, what would it be?

Don’t be afraid to take chances. Make a commitment and take actions. Get proactive about this. Life is too short to worry about other people. Every day you procrastinate is one less day of love in your life. Get your ass out and make it happen for yourself.

Thanks Magic!

To find out if Magic’s live coaching can help you, he does 30 minute phone consultations to determine whether or not you are a good fit. Visit Magic’s site, Attraction Methods here.

DONOVAN: What made you decide to become a dating coach?

AFC Adam: Honestly I didn’t plan it. I always just wanted to learn how to improve myself. I met a guy in the UK who was willing to teach me in return for me helping him drum up some PR for his business. Once the articles started coming in he wasn’t too keen on the publicity. So he asked me if I wouldn’t mind being the face of the company. I agreed and began doing demos for the papers and TV shows. Sure enough I ended up closing on camera time and time again. The more I did it the more people wanted to learn from me. I really didn’t want to be a teacher at the time so I tried to deter students from working with me. I added the AFC at the start of my name in the hope that they would all shy away from learning form me, hoping they would think I was a beginner. This worked for as time, perhaps 4- 6 months. But once I was on the Rules of Seduction in the UK Things really just went crazy.

DONOVAN: When did people first start to know you outside of the UK?

AFC Adam: It was the PUA Summit in 2007. I really wasn’t going to go, I was a last minute speaker and was convinced to go along by my friends Tung and Crazy Serb from Canada. Both of them are great guys who just kept pushing me to go, so in the end I went along. I wasn’t really expecting anything to come from it, but once I was there I realised that a lot of the people there weren’t actually getting as many results as the guys in the UK Lairs, so my talk went down really well. Then out of nowhere Thundercat put me on his top 10 list and things escalated from there.

DONOVAN: The next question, can you tell us your favorite success story from one of your clients?

AFC Adam: Actually it was only a few weeks ago. We were running a special 1 week long bootcamp. Called Project Spring break, yes original I know. hahah. Actually It’s something me and Amanda have wanted to do for a long time. To give people not only a chance to get good at game but to also experience spring break in all it’s craziness. So many people who join the community don’t get a decent spring break in their college years so this was a chance for them to re -experience it in a BIG WAY. This one student that come along was completely inexperienced, had never approached before in his life and had massive AA. He manged to pull off two lays during the course and on both occasions convinced the girl to let him back to her room to close. Even now thinking about it makes me smile. The guy just pulled out all the stops and smashed it from zero to hero in 1 week!

DONOVAN: That’s awesome. What do you think is the main reason people take so long to get good?

AFC Adam: Honestly I believe it’s because they spend too much time on forums, reading and downloading content. Whereas if they actually got out there in field and actually SPOKE to girls they would find their results sky rocket. I calculated the other day I must have done 3000 sets in my first 3 months of training at the game before I was getting consistent results. Most people do this many sets over 3 years which explains why it takes so long to improve.

DONOVAN: Yeah. I think a lot of guys do find many excuses to avoid going out there in person and actually approach, what do you think is the best advice to someone who suffers from the fear of the approach to actually get them out there doing sets?

AFC Adam: Honestly I could sit here and provide a list of hypnosis and confidence cd’s but in reality the only way you’re going to get over the fear of approaching is to get out there and do it. There is an old psychological technique to help get over fear known as systematic desensitization. In summary this works by slowly exposing yourself to the situation in question. With regards to seduction this is easily done by starting out talking to girls you aren’t attracted to and purposely only staying in set for 10 seconds or so. Once you can do this without any anxiety it’s time to push further, either in terms of quality or length of time. Slowly but surely if you keep pushing you will find yourself getting to the point where you can talk to any girls no matter how beautiful they are.

DONOVAN: That’s some solid advice. In your experience, what’s the best place and/or location to try and pick up a girl?

AFC Adam: Hmm Honestly one of my favourite places is outside a modelling office. Back when I was gaming 24/7 I would either find the location of a modelling agency or a model audition and then simply place myself in a nearby coffee shop waiting for the girls to arrive.

DONOVAN: One of the things you’re really well known for is your Entourage game and the ability to create and work your social circle to consist almost entirely of beautiful women. Could you tell us a bit about how this works?

AFC Adam: Man this is one of my favourite topics. I remember when I first got into the whole seduction scene and reading “the game” about how project hollywood got the whole deal wrong. The idea of living in a house full of guys just didn’t interest me. I was much more interested in the whole hugh hefner lifestyle. So I decided to plan out a way I could duplicate the same lifestyle. I began making friends with girls in the London Nightclub circuit and instead of trying to sleep with them I just befriended them. Instead of going out gaming with guys I would get these girls to help me out. The social proof and pre-selection they gave me was off the chart. I would actually get opened by girls. After a while I ended up living a lifestyle where everywhere I went girls would come with me, and they were even competing to sleep with me, it was crazy.

Most people in the community feel they should sleep with every girl that they meet. But by trying to sleep with them all each situation becomes either a lay or a fail. IF it’s a fail they lose the girl from their life, and if it’s a lay they don’t tend to merge social circles. None of this is particularly condusive to building a social life especially not one filled with girls. Without having girls in your social circle you’ll never truly realise how powerful social proof can be or how easy it truly can be. It just doesn’t get easier than having the girls do all the work for you.

DONOVAN: Ok. Then to sum up, You’re traveling the states at the moment doing bootcamps, how is the tour going?

Yeah we’re currently traveling the states and it’s hectic. We’ve been doing bootcamps almost every single weekend and the results are amazing. We’ve had the chance to see some amazing places as well as meeting a lot of great people along the way. We’ve been teaching a lot of the newer material from social circle building and entourage game right through to day game and of course it’s all without routines so the guys never get caught out as being clones from the Pick Up Artist TV show which is something we’ve heard a lot of people are struggling with at the moment. We’re currently running at an almost 100% success rate for students in terms of getting number closes at least for a full 10 month streak and we’re pushing to keep that going!

DONOVAN: Well thanks so much for coming in to chat with me

AFC Adam: No probs man thank you very much for having me!

DONOVAN: Check out Adam’s US Tour dates at the bootcamp page.

Where are you from, what’s your background?

I grew up in a small town in Oklahoma. I played sports growing up and through high school. When I graduated high school I almost went to West Point, but ended up going to The University of Oklahoma instead. Probably the best decision I ever made. My college experience was insane. It was 4 of the best years of my life. I was in the Army and went to Airborne school during my time in college as well.

I majored in political science and planned on becoming a lawyer. I enrolled in law school and decided to take a year off before I started to get my mind right and to travel a little bit. It was during that year off that I discovered the dating industry and my journey to instructor began.

How was your dating life up to getting involved in the industry?

I was always pretty good with women as long as they knew me first. Before I found the dating industry I had dated a lot of beautiful women, but I would say 95% of those were social circle. This was fine all the way through college, but once I graduated and all my friends had moved off, my dating life took a big hit. I remember feeling really lost and depressed for a stretch after college. I found it hard to meet women in general and even harder to find and date the high caliber of women I had dated in my past.

As far as cold approach went, I had balls to approach as long as all my friends were around or if I had a few drinks. So every once in a while I would get lucky, but I was by no means good at cold approach and I was deathly afraid of it unless I had some liquid courage.

What was the tipping point for you to get involved in the men’s community?

I found the community more by accident than anything. I’m sure that’s how most guys find it. The tipping point for me was after a girl I had been dating for 2 years broke up with me. It was right in that time after college when all my friends had moved off and I was about to start law school. I had this beautiful girlfriend all through college and I had always dated beautiful women and now all of a sudden my friends were gone, my girl was gone, and the only girls I could get were the one’s I would have never considered dating in my past. I became extremely depressed. I started to have all of these bullshit thoughts and feelings telling me that I had ruined my life and that I should have married that girl because I could never get a girl like her again blab bla bla (puke) ☺

I started looking for answers for how to feel better and to understand my depression. Through my self help and psychology reading binge I stumbled across The Game. After reading the first page I became so excited that I read the entire book in one night. I couldn’t put it down. I couldn’t believe that guys had broken this down into a science. I had always believed guys were either good with women or they weren’t. Girls either liked you or they didn’t and there wasn’t much you could do about it. That book really shook my reality. It came at a really good time for me because I was pretty down.

It also showed me that it was possible to consistently meet beautiful women without building a massive social circle. That was something I needed to hear. It really lit a fire under my ass. I think my depression was partly do to the fact that I was holding on to a firm belief that the only way to meet BEAUTIFUL women…I mean a true 10 was through social circles. I knew guys who could get drunk and snag a 7 through cold approach and I had even done that myself. However, every guy I knew who had ever dated an off the chart 10, including myself, had always done so through social circles. Reading The Game showed me the possible. I’m really glad I found that book. It was truly freeing.

What were your major sticking points, have you gotten over them and
what have you done to accomplish it?

One of my biggest sticking points was my inability to get out of attraction. I remember reading David D’s Double Your Dating eBook way back when I started and it made me a nightmare. I love David D and I highly recommend several of his products, but for a guy like me who was already a naturally teasing guy, his cocky funny concepts just turned me into an obnoxious asshole.

It wasn’t until I found Magic Bullets that I was able to break through this sticking point. I was grateful when I read Magic Bullets because the Emotional Progression Model gave me a road map telling me where I was with each woman I met. Before I found Magic Bullets I had no clue where I was in set. I would basically run attraction only and never switch gears into qualification or comfort unless the women did it for me. I had no clue why some women were madly in love with me and some were only moderately interested.

Most of my sticking points were inner game. I had a lot of demons and negative beliefs I really needed to unwire. What did I do to accomplish this? I cancelled my cable and I have read two books per week for the last 3 years. I take notes in everyone of them and the notes that are the most important I type up and read everyday until I feel like I can see those changes in my life. There are a couple of books that really hit home on changes that I needed to make that I have read 4 or 5 times and had to buy multiple copies because they became so tattered. It is my personal law that until I see the changes in action in my life, than I stay on that book. I learned quickly that deep level change takes time and repetition. You can’t read a book one time and expect for all your problems to go away. You have to wage war on them and keep attacking them if you want true change.
I think the best advice I could give someone who wants to get their inner game sorted would be to try to find a mentor in every key area of your life, seek new knowledge and new experiences CONSTANTLY, and cut toxic people from your life completely.

I would also say that it wasn’t until I made drastic changes that I started to see real results. You can read all day and jerk off mentally to new age books on spirituality, but if you don’t get off your ass and get your hands dirty and really shake up your life than your essentially wasting your time. I had to cut some bad friends, change career paths, spend less time with certain family members, move, and really question my beliefs and reasons for my goals before I started to see real change. It was the hardest thing I’ve ever done, but it was totally worth it.

Do you have a favorite field report, can you share it?

I would write more of these, but it takes me about 3 or 4 hours to write a good field report that is actually educational and worth reading. I also only write them on hot women. Not that I haven’t had my share of average girls, but I damn sure don’t want to waste my time or my clients time writing about them. Who wants to learn from that? The way you game a 7 vs a 10 is completely different. I can’t stand when guys write field reports on 7’s or below. Who gives a shit about some epic pull when the girl is a 6. So many guys in this community blow something that is completely common and takes little or no skill way out of proportion and act like they did something quantum. They will write a field report about a 6 (call her an HB 10) and then go on and on about some new frame or routine the used to land her, when they could have said basically anything and she would have went home with them.

Sorry about the rant, back on topic……

There are a bunch of field reports on my blog.

You work with Love Systems. Why Love Systems and not by yourself?

When I started researching this stuff I read, listened to, and watched every product on the market. Besides Love Systems the only other influence that really blew my mind was Tyler Durden personally. I read his entire archive on ASF and it blew my mind. Everybody gives that guy a bad wrap, but the truth is nobody breaks down game like that guy. He is a freak! But after reading the reviews of all the bootcamps and listening to all the products, it was obvious that Love Systems (Formerly known as The Mystery Method) was the gold standard in the industry. I know that I had all kinds of reservations and doubts about taking a bootcamp, but when I found out Savoy offers a 100% money back guarantee if I wasn’t happy I decided it couldn’t hurt to give it a chance. Most companies don’t offer that.

The main thing that sold me was the Love Systems interview series. Like I said, I had checked out every product on the market so I wasn’t easily impressed. I had gotten laid way before I found game and all my friends back home were naturals. You can tell within 5 minutes of meeting someone or listening to them talk if they get laid or not. Most of the other products on the market turned me off. I could tell that it was just some nerdy guy trying to sound like he knew what he was talking about. I could tell that it was stuff that would never work on a true 10. But when I heard the Love Systems interview series with Savoy, Future, Mr. M, 10 Magnet, Sheriff, and The Don I could tell that they were guys who had been in the fire fight, not just guys who were trying to sound cool but had no idea what they were talking about.

I want to be honest in this interview, 90% of the reason I chose to work for Love Systems was completely selfish. Yeah I wanted to help guys and all that, but the main reason was because I wanted to improve myself and to do that I wanted to be around the best guys in the world as much as possible. I knew some of the other companies had 1 awesome figurehead or 1 guru surrounded by a bunch of no name minions, but Love Systems had a team of guys who knew their shit and practiced what they preached.

I also wanted to be with a company that had cool guys outside of pickup. I personally was not interested in hanging out with guys who were solely obsessed with pickup and were sad souls who had done nothing else with their life. I did not want to be around guys who I couldn’t introduce to my friends back home. All the Love Systems instructors are cool, mentally healthy guys who I consider close friends and mentors….not just in pickup.

I think Love Systems has always had high standards on what it takes to become an instructor, but in the past year Savoy has really stepped this up. It is no easy feat to become a Love Systems instructor. You can’t just get grandfathered in like you can in some companies. You have to be nominated by two separate lead instructors and then meet Savoy personally. He will then interview the candidate and make him open sets on the spot. If they fail any portion of the test….they are out. I like this a lot. This keeps our instructor team top notch. In an industry where all you have is your name, it’s key that we keep the best of the best instructors in our stable.

What are you working on lately?

This last year has been crazy for me. I finally sent my Phone and Text game book to the editor and it should be done very soon. This book was originally going to be less than 100 pages. I think I finally edited down under 200 hundred pages. It’s full of actual texts scripts and it’s a step by step model for how to use your phone to maximize your chances of getting the girl. I wrote this book because text and phone game is one of my specialties and I was getting tons of emails from guys telling me it was their biggest sticking point.

I have also started teaching something on my bootcamps that I call Trigger Words. It basically shortens the model and allows guys to generate all their routines based on the woman they are talking to. Instead of trying to memorize 300 routines and using the same ones even when they don’t fit certain types of girls or the situation and coming off a little weird, Trigger Words allows guys to run a really natural form of game that is specific to the woman they are talking to. Every since I started teaching Trigger words in my bootcamps my clients have been getting insane results in a really short period of time. Before they would have to go home and practice for months just to master a routine stack. With Trigger Words you don’t need a routine stack and you don’t need to memorize anything accept the Emotional Progression Model outlined in Magic Bullets.
I’m probably most proud of my contributions to our Inner Game and Social Circle Mastery one day seminars. Mr. M and I co created these seminars and they have really changed my life. I don’t think I’ve ever worked harder on anything in my life than these two seminars. Social Circle Mastery is a seminar on how to build a lifestyle full of beautiful women, cool guy friends, and mentors. Ideally you don’t want to be running cold approach for years and years. You want to use cold approach as a catalyst to help you create a cool lifestyle that is naturally full of beautiful women. I wish I could have taken this seminar when I was 15. My life would be completely different.

Our Inner Game seminar took us over a year to put together. The first time we taught it we went 4 hours over the allotted time and only completed 25% of the seminar. It really goes deep. When we sat down to create this seminar we wanted to create something that wasn’t just feel good bullshit or weird new age spiritual stuff. We wanted to create a seminar that gave guys actionable steps to really get their inner game in order. This seminar is something that is really special to me, because I know how bad my inner game was years ago. Mr. M and I tried to make this seminar the one we wish we would have had when we were at our lowest points. Savoy really gave us some tight parameters with this seminar. He hates most of the inner game stuff on the market and has even refused to allow our company to teach it in the past. We had to really create something special before he would put his stamp of approval on it.
If a guy is wondering where to start, inner game is the cornerstone as far as I’m concerned. Inner game is the foundation of everything else. So if you don’t have this sorted then nothing will feel right. You can sleep with a million girls, be rich, or have the girl of your dreams, but if your inner game is out of order it will all feel empty.

Love Systems as a team is rolling out some great stuff as well. Savoy just finished his Relationship Management DVD and it’s pretty amazing. Soul launched his Day Game seminars this past year. I sat in on this seminar and it was eye opening to say the least. I’ve done my share of day game, but I don’t know anyone who has done more day game sets than Soul. Soul is working on a day game ebook that should be out in the near future.

If you are interested in checking any of these seminars or products out you can see them all at:

www.lovesystems.com
If you want to say hi, make a comment on my blog:
www.braddocksblog.com

Tell me about where you’re from and how you got to be where you are now with “inner game.”

Where I’m from? Well physically speaking, Planet Earth; more specifically, Chicago, IL. Intellectually and emotionally, however, I’ve come from a kid born with a rare bone disorder that has confined my mobility to a wheelchair, stunted my growth to only three feet, and made my bones extremely brittle, fracturing over 200 times by age 18. I grew up often frustrated that people would stare at me, kids would point and laugh at my appearance, and I could NEVER blend in and be normal. As an adult though, my condition is seen as a blessing. “Peacocking” is not necessary because I am the freaking peacock. One look at me and I’m in your brain FOREVER; that comes in quite handy with women. I never have to do crazy things, die my hair, ink my body up, or trip and fall into a tackle box (get lots of piercings) to get attention. I just have to show up.

As far as my ‘Love Evolution,’ I was quite the late bloomer. I didn’t get my first kiss until I was 19. I didn’t have my first sexual experience until age 24 and my first REAL girlfriend until age 26. Women loved being my ‘friend’ and hanging out with me, but I never converted them into lovers and girlfriends until I got my inner game together. I used to blame my lack of success on my physical condition, “Women can’t be attracted to a little man in a wheelchair.”

That was my pathetic mantra from age 12 until age 24. I broke the cycle when I started studying what women really want in a man. When I discovered that my inner game (confidence and self-worth) is the ultimate determining factor in creating attraction, I took off. Within one year I acquired more intimacy than in my entire previous dating history. Now I’m dating some of the most attractive, talented, and loving women around. My transformation was so radical that I couldn’t keep it to myself; I had to share my insights and explorations with the world in my online Magazine: www.InnerGameMagazine.com. Guys struggling in their dating life often don’t realize that they need to get their mind/life together to create solid attraction.

Have you had any huge realizations about inner game that you’ve only had in the last year?

More than I can count. Every time I sit down with an IGM cover story guest, my mind is blown away with insights about the male and female mind. Here’s a few for you:

• If you don’t find yourself attractive, you’ll give off the vibe that neither should the women you want. Spend a few minutes a day looking in the mirror looking for your attractive qualities: hair, eyes, smile, whatever! This isn’t some new age crap; I’m serious. Find yourself attractive and radiate that energy.

• If you get involved in philanthropy and give back to the planet and humanity you accomplish three powerful things…

  1. You meet hot women who are into more than themselves.

  2. You develop your life into a more interesting experience, which is more attractive.

  3. You feel better about yourself and life, which is more fulfilling than anything you could do or buy.

• If you get into badass shape physically something magical takes place in your inner game: you develop discipline, you feel better emotionally (less foggy), you feel more powerful, and you look healthier (which is more attractive).

Is there one big key to focus on for self esteem and confidence that can help guys who are just starting out?

Read the book One Small Step Can Change Your Life.

I didn’t write it, nor do I even know the author. It’s a book that I recommend to all my clients before they come and see me. I find when you want to develop your confidence and self-esteem, you have to be reminded that Rome wasn’t built in a day. It takes some time for a new identity to take root in a man’s mind. Stay positive through the process, even if you fall on your face 100 times while getting your inner game together.

I still have days where fear and insecurity nibble on my mind; that’s no cause to resort to quitting or sulking that I’m not perfect. I would also tell you to surround yourself with resources and people that believe in you more than you believe in yourself. On those dark days when you trip and fall, they’ll be right there cheering you on to get back up, not kicking you for being the idiot that fell. You can’t grow a strong plant in compromised/toxic soil, and you can’t grow a healthy self-esteem and confidence in a place of negativity, cynicism, and doubt.

Flush away negative influences. It’s tough to do so; however, it’s imperative. Anything else I could teach you is pointless if your living, working, and socializing environments are not supportive.

Where do you meet most of the women you date?

Charity events, bookstores, coffee houses, personal growth seminars, and the gym. I use to meet women in clubs, bars, and restaurants;however, that often left me with disappointment. Reason being is those girls were either flakes, train wrecks, or had low expectations in life. I personally want a gal who has her life together and is capable of being self-sufficient and open to giving and receiving love fully. Don’t go after a girl at a club at 3:00am who is bombed out of her mind and then think she’s going to be extremely responsible and mature the next day. Where you meet someone is more telling than just the place you reference in a story of how you met.

Which people have you had personal dealings with that have helped your inner game? What did they teach you?

I have been mentored by dozens of the most amazing individuals; here are a few…

Byron Katie: An unquestioned mind is a mind in chaos. You can’t change people; you can only live your life as an example around them. You have to love ‘what is’ rather than mope about ‘what should be.’ If you fight with ‘what is’ you lose, but only 100% of the time.

Ask yourself on a regular basis when you have chaotic thoughts:

1. Is that true?

2. Can you absolutely know that’s true?

3. How does that thought make you feel?

4. Who would you be without that thought?

5. What is the opposite of that thought?

Tony Robbins: You have to live life with passion. You can’t play the game of life half-assed; if you do, you’ll get half-assed results. There are six human needs we all have to have met on some level:

1. You need Certainty: predictability of what will happen next.

2. You need Uncertainty: variety of new experiences.

3. You need Significance: attention from those around you.

4. You need Love/Connection: bonding with those you care about.

You can’t feel fulfilled without the last two:

5. You need Growth: expansion of your life.

6. You need Contribution: giving back to humanity/the planet.

Gary Chapman: Love is expressed like a language; if you don’t speak to someone in their language, it’s like you never spoke to them at all.

1. Some of us need words of affirmation, i.e. compliments and words of encouragement.

2. Some of us need physical touch, i.e. hug, pat on the back, or sessions of being held close.

3. Some of us need gifts, i.e. some physical/tangible item to show someone that we thought of them.

4. Some of us need quality time, i.e. sitting in the park just being together saying nothing.

5. Some of us need acts of service, i.e. cooking a meal, mowing their lawn, or fixing their car.

David DeAngelo: Attraction isn’t a choice. Once you spark attraction in a woman she will feel it on some level for you forever. The way you spark it best is by having an exciting life, being playful, and standing your ground when she starts testing you.

Deepak Chopra: We are all energy. If you are not attracting what you want into your life it is because you are not at the highest mental awareness (vibration). You must align your mind, body, and spirit if you want to start creating the life of your dreams.

No element of your life can be disconnected from your life. If you are sick, tired, broke, or hurting in any way, it will eventually surface in every area of your life.

Larry Winget: If your life sucks, it’s cause you suck. You are afraid to work hard and get bruised. The people who accomplish the most and get the most juice out of their life are the ones that take the most responsibility for their life and NEVER blame anyone or anything. PERIOD!

Don Miguel Ruiz: You must master the four most powerful agreements:

Agreement 1: Be impeccable with your word. Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love.

Agreement 2: Don’t take anything personally. Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering.

Agreement 3: Don’t make assumptions. Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness, and drama. With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life.

Agreement 4: Always do your best. Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick. Under any circumstance, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgment, self-abuse, and regret.

Even with your confidence now, what happens when self-doubt creeps in at a later time? How do you deal with that?

I zoom out and ask the questions:

“Is this life or death?”

“What good am I accomplishing by coming from fear?”

Then, if the fear/doubt is really strong, I employ the Cartesian logic:

1. What would happen if this did happen?

2. What would happen if this didn’t happen?

3. What wouldn’t happen if this did happen?

4. What wouldn’t happen if this didn’t happen?

Run that on your brain and you’ll come out the other end a pile of mush; Issue neutralized.

I also will go out and read from empowering books, review empowering journal entries of mine, or go a few minutes on my punching bag.

Doubt is a virus and it has no place in your mind; that’s why it hosts on you. You need to find it and get it out of there IMMEDIATELY.

You studied under Tony Robbins. What did you learn from him?

That I was capable of FAR more than I realized. He taught me if you make something “a MUST” you will pool every resource possible to make it happen… versus “a should,” which most people NEVER get around to doing.

I learned that the body and mind work together in every second to create our experience of reality, and we must listen closely to both.

I learned that people will judge you no matter what you do so you might as well be living life on your terms and be having a blast.

Has anything you learned from Tony Robbins proven incorrect or inapplicable as you’ve gone through life?

While I know he’s not perfect, his material has always checked out and worked for me and my clients. Tony has been nothing but a powerful resource in my life. Sure, I was sad the day I realized he wasn’t flawless. I was shocked that even the KING of personal growth had a temper, made bad decisions, and did things differently than I might have, but that’s all a part of being human. His human side doesn’t discredit his material.

What is the biggest inner game problem guys have within the community? What can they do to remedy it?

Thinking that their problem is external, i.e. that women are messed up, that they just don’t have the ‘right line,’ and that they aren’t good looking enough. It’s ALL BS!!!

The problem lies internally. They don’t feel like they have what it takes; they feel flawed and incapable of being lovable.

Everyone has a different remedy that is customized to where they are. Everyone in the community wants a blanket answer. Give me the five steps to getting laid – that’s a bunch of crap. If you get laid, sure you’ll feel good, for awhile…but then the “I’m not enough” dragon will surface again in a few hours, days, or weeks.

No amount of “closes” will make you feel complete and truly happy.

The guys in the community must realize that they must face their fears and do so in a healthy, safe, and professional manner. For some, that might mean hiring a skilled coach; for others it might mean reading 100 books; for some it might mean getting their finances in order, and for others it could mean getting in shape. Without a stable life, you are building a gaming toolbox that will eventually leave you skilled at seduction and empty in fulfillment….not to mention that you won’t land a loving woman who will be willing to face the good times and bad with you.

Do you have any field reports of you personally that you can relate to help the readers?

The term ‘field reports’ creeps the hell out of me. I think you mean, “do I have any successful events that might help a guy out.” Yes. I detail many of them in my free eBook Top 10 Inner Game Killers, which you can get by going to www.InnerGameMagazine.com

To give you one right now, I’d share this…

I’d been friends with this gorgeous girl for years. I thought I was stuck in the friend zone for years. Slowly but surely she saw my life transform as I got my inner game together. She saw my life become more and more exciting. She saw me get super busy and extremely mature and responsible.

Then one night we sat on a coach together watching a football game. We started holding hands, cuddling, and sending very warm energy to each other.

Something magically shifted; she was starting to fall for me. That sparked a several month relationship that was filled with sex, love, fun, caring, and lots of connection. While the relationship didn’t last forever, it taught me that when a man gets his life together, women take notice. There is no such thing as the friend zone if you create an attractive life and you are giving a woman unconditional love.

What is inner game magazine, what can guys expect?

There are two ways to subscribe to Inner Game Magazine. The Basic subscription is FREE and will give you a weekly article written by me or my editor and inside woman, Liz.

The Premium subscription will give you all of the benefits of the Basic, plus a monthly high quality audio interview where I sit down with some of the best experts in the field of inner game. Along with the interview you will get the Premium Pages, which are like Cliff Notes for each interview. All of this is only $15 a month and $1 for the first issue.

Why should guys be subscribed to it?

While you will no doubt get great information from reading the articles available in the Basic subscription, they won’t help you truly develop your inner game.

For that, you need a Premium subscription. Each month, I sit down with a male dating expert and find out the inner workings of his mind and his life. I don’t just shoot the breeze with him; my interviews all follow a system that allows you to model these men so that eventually your life will be as exciting and fulfilling as theirs are.

Women will not find a man attractive if she senses that he is flaky or does things halfway. A Premium subscription is the only way to truly commit to becoming the man who women want.

This interview, might be the craziest one yet. TwentySix is known for being 26 when he first kissed and had sex with a woman. He was a featured speaker in David Deangelo‘s Cocky Comedy a few years back, and has since started a comedy coaching program at revolution31.com.

You’ve come to be known in the community by your appearances in The Game by Neil Strauss, Cocky Comedy and Mastery Program that David Deangelo put together. You were working for RSD and unlike other gurus, you went dark right after leaving them. Why did you leave Real Social Dynamics?

I was deeply in love with Tyler’s every move. He wouldn’t make homosexual intercourse in my anus. All I wanted was for him to impregnate me with a male homosexual Vietnamese boy. One we could raise together in the Project Hollywood Mansion.

Also, it’s very hard to work when you have massive Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) and depression. The whole time I was in the game I was pretty fucked man.

The worst part was I was running around more frantically than a Chinamen hunting for a chicken ball, searching for the latest self-help or spiritual resource looking for any lead to help solve for my OCD.

Man, I was so against modern medicine at the time, but that’s what ended up helping me with my OCD and depression. I can honestly say I feel better than I ever have in my life right now.

Dudes, take it first hand from a guy who honestly tried so hard to get well, without the help from real Doctors. Man, now I know why they’re called real doctors, ‘cause these fuckers can help you. But you do have to find the right ones.

Anyway this is getting boring. Penis. Cunt. Vagina with boogers on the hairs of the vagina.

Oh yeah, also when I left RSD, I didn’t agree with the values of the company.

And I FUCKING HATED living with everyone – it was shear terribleness.

What have you been doing since then?

Masturbating. Constantly. Crying and masturbating at the same time.

I’ve also been spending the last two years working at an Insurance Company. Holy shit, this sucks. Humans aren’t meant to live like this. I mean, I know there’s people in Ethiopia that have flies all over their face and balls, but fuck, my job fucking blows. You know your job is fucking bullshit when you get home on Friday night and you start thinking about how you have to go to work on Monday. That’s me.

In all seriousness, I’d rather work seven days a week at a male bathhouse, servicing a Glory Hole for 16-hour intervals.

What else have I been up to; other than printing off Neil Strauss photos and hacking the fuck out of them with a knife?

Well, I finally launched my new website: www.revolution31.com

It’s Grand!

Comedy is your specialty and many people know you’re an aspiring standup comedian. How does being funny relate to picking up women?

Ok, I have to put this aspiring stand-up comedian thing to rest. I don’t like doing stand-up comedy at all. At all! I never really did like it when I did it.

Yes, I would like to get in to the Comedy industry, but not through the avenue of stand-up.

Fuck man, I really love stand-up comics, and I have an appreciation for anyone who does it. However, it’s pretty obvious not many people are good at it.

I don’t know what’s better: A really good Comedian like Zach Galifianakis, or a total shit comedian that thinks he’s good.

I have to admit, some of those clueless shit comedians are fucking amazing. Like, they’re better than the Zach Galifianakis’ because they are so amazingly terrible. So terrible they’re amazing! I love that shit.

What was the second part of the question? Oh yeah, “How does being funny relate to picking up women”.

All right, another thing, I’m definitely not a pick-up artist, and if I ever was, I would definitely not use the term pick-up artist. It is so fucking gay.

The funny thing was, I didn’t even want to be a vagina villain when I entered the dating world. I just wanted a girlfriend. A simple fucking girlfriend, but one avenue seems to always leads to another. And the next thing you know you find yourself high on methamphetamines lying semi-conscious in Badboy’s bathtub in Slovenia, trimming his ass hairs with your bottom teeth and falatio-ing his asshole with more rigor and spizzaz than a Chinamen hunting for the last chicken ball.

All right, here’s the deal, how being funny relates to meeting women.

There are a few things you have to know:
1. What Lame is
2. Gauging
3. Making jokes for yourself

1. You have to know what is Lame. End of story. If you don’t, it is all over. Look at all the good comics out there. Knowing what is Lame is the whole premise behind everything they say and do.

You have to know what is going on culturally. You also have to understand that it is ok to be Lame yourself. If you accept your lameness, and are cool with sticking up for your lameness or shooting your own self down, then you will be fine.

What is Lame? Lame is people who “don’t get it”. The sad thing is most people don’t get it. Of course everyone wants to think about himself or herself as someone who “Gets it”, but you probably aren’t one of them. People who make good jokes rip on people constantly. And whom are they ripping on? The Lame. Overall, if you’re some jock, and you’re a tough guy, that’s Lame. I don’t know, I think you have to be a good guy who likes to destroy people and their flaws, but at the same time, be a good person. Exploitation. Anyway, we teach all this and more in our Comedy Program.

2. Ok, I didn’t want to make this interview eternally long.

Gauging – watch the reactions of the people around you when you’re telling a story. It’s important to focus on their eyes. The eyes will give you queues as to what you need to do to keep them interested.

3. Making jokes for yourself – If you’re not goofing around to make yourself amused then it’s over, don’t even try. ‘Cause everything you end up saying will be totally unfunny.

What are the best methods for being funnier in conversation?

Rape someone.

What are some great resources guys can buy today to help them in their quest for being funnier?

First, Comedy Writing Secrets, ironically, has to be one of the most unfunny books in the world. I have read some of it and it is terrible. Horrendous. One of the most boring ways I can think of to learn comedy.

In my opinion, the following are cutting edge:

DVDs

- Kenny vs. Spenny
- Flight of the Conchords
- Da Ali G Show
- The Tom Green Show
- South Park
- The Office
- Chappelle’s Show

BOOKS

I hate reading.

But here are some books:
- How to be a Pedophile – Fast!
- How to Bed Both your Grandmas in Less than an Hour
- How to Sleep with your Grandma, Even if She’s Dead

How do you balance being funny versus “trying to hard” or overly dominating the conversation to the point of annoyance?

Honestly, you can’t worry about this.

If you’re trying too hard then you personally aren’t enjoying being funny. No one has fun doing anything when they try too hard.

And being annoying? Man, it’s all about gauging the audience. Read them, don’t abandon your agenda. Trust me, people will let you annoy them (in a good way) if you’re reading in to their needs.

You’re known for having a very upbeat mood. How do you maintain that and do you have any downtime?

It’s just the way I am, I guess. I’m a hyper guy. I’m high energy most of the time. Do I get tired? Fuck yeah, but it’s hard for me to not be high energy. I do relax, but not a lot, unfortunately.

I have to admit, by the time the day is up, I’m tired, and I like to chill out and watch In Treatment and Law and Order and shows like that. Yes, I can have a normal conversation with someone, but it’s pretty hard to do sometimes. You’d probably have to be around me a lot.

Who are the best pickup guys you’ve met and what have they taught you that you’ve implemented into your game?

Man, I don’t like to think of myself as a dude who games chicks. Was I that guy? Yes. But that was short-lived, and that’s just not me. Did I learn a lot while in the “Game” – fuck yeah, and I don’t regret a second.

Best guys I’ve ever met:

Mystery

The guy is phenomenal. Amazing. Charismatic. However, would I recommend people go to him for help? Fuck no, unless you’re interested in learning how to be extremely shallow.

Listen, the dude taught me a lot personally, I get a long with him on a personal level very well. And his methods are great for learning, but man, there’s more to life. Suck it!

Stephen Nash

Stephen obviously isn’t a sports fan. However, “PlayboyLA”, yeah, I would recommend this guy. He’s a good person, and I hope still has good intentions. He’s one of the few people I would recommend in the scene.

I don’t really know what I learned from him, but I spent three months with him in Project Hollywood (how gay is that name). I guess when I saw Steve in action, I just saw what it is was like to have fun and relax while meeting women.

(Side note: Stephen Nash writes a column here every Monday, check it out here)

Super

I met this guy after exiting the scene. This guy is a pure natural, and fuck – amazing. Hands down one of the best guys I have ever seen in my life. The dude was born and bred in Sao Paulo, Brazil, and he knows what he’s doing. And he does it with such a new flavor and take – it’s nice to see!

What I learned from this guy – man, that there’s no wrong way to meet girls.

Super was so good, that I was able to come to an agreement and have him teach programs for revolution31.com. He is an instructor is a new program called Brazilians. I’m really happy to be working with the Brazilians.

You’ve started a new company, can you explain what that’s about and what it offers?

Yeah, I created a new company.

Right now, we have a couple Programs:

Comedy – It’s a 44-hour program where we teach you how to be a funnier person. The program is nuts. It’s pretty intense, and a lot of it takes place in field (social settings).

Clients will constantly have a 3-1 Instructor to Client ratio! And lodging and meals are free for this program.

Brazilians – To me, this is the most unique Dating Program for Men available right now.

We have three instructors, Christiano Jr., Super and Roxie. You learn how to meet women the South American way. South America is by far the most sexually expressive continent in the world. You will learn from two Brazilian men, and with constant feedback from our female instructor, Roxie.

We worked really hard to bring this product to Revolution31. So, I stand behind it 100%. These guys are better than I ever was, and better than 99% of the guys I have met in the Dating World.

If you take any of our programs, and you don’t like them, we will give you your money back.

Anyway, Donovan, I wanted to say thanks for interviewing me – it’s appreciated!

Barry

How did you get into the community?

I actually got into the community before I lost my virginity. I lost my virginity to a chubby girl I met on the internet after I first read David Deangelo’s “Double Your Dating”. Then I had two years of unintentional celibacy. After that I decided I was going to try the Fast Seduction newbie challenge which consisted of going out to the mall( Alone which was terrifying to me at the time) and saying “hi” to 50 strangers. This led to Mystery’s 50 sets a week challenge. Which led to me doing 50 approaches a week. 7 a day to be exact(at the mall) for like a year and a half. It took me 6 months to get my first lay from it. But I dropped all ego and looked at this as if I was coming from the lowest possible point. Which I probably was…

What do you think is the single biggest thing you’ve learned in the community?

I would say the best thing the community provided, was being able to diagnose what I was doing wrong. The community principles and the road map of steps changed my thinking from “Man that girl did not like me “ to “Ok I made a mistake in qualification and she thought I didn’t actually like her…” That made things a whole lot easier. And while I have subsequently dropped routines and stuff like that from my game, I think that knowing how sex happens and where you are in the process is an invaluable asset.

What would you say is the single biggest factor in whether or not someone will get good at “The Game”?

I actually think that there are two overwhelming factors that determine success. The first is the ability to look yourself in the mirror honestly and accept some possibly ugly truths about yourself and the way you interact with people. You have to look at this objectively.

So many guys get really bummed out because they don’t look at where they are at realistically and look for solutions. I learned a lot about this from the book “The Inner Game of Tennis” . In the book the author talks about how when he would ask a student to describe the problems in their game, they would say things like “My backhand is terrible”. When in reality they hit the ball with too much backspin, or they didn’t follow through enough. The thing is they subjectively assume this is a bad result as oppose to looking at what’s wrong and trying to fix it. So guys come to me and they are too busy judging themselves as not being good enough when they just lack a skill or a new way of thinking about things. You have to able to stop judging yourself or trying to be someone you’re not accept where you’re at and then set goals and work hard to get there. And the weird thing is my students are among some of the coolest guys I’ve ever met. That’s one of the things I’m excited about now is being able to work closer with students for longer periods of time.

The second factor that I think affects whether or not a guy is going to get good is discipline. See everyone who finds the seduction community is smart. Stupid people just don’t find the community. They don’t sit there asking if there are algorithms or classes to get better with women. And smart people are great. Unfortunately one of the things they are really great at is making excuses. You have to do the work to get good at this. And it’s not easy. It’s unbelievably worth it once you get the good. But it’s a long difficult process where you are going to immensely challenge a lot of beliefs you have about yourself, women., sex and relationships… And it can be difficult to get over sticking points. Most guys never get good, because they aren’t disciplined enough to keep working at developing the skills. Most guys want the magic pill, he easy fix, and that’s not what we provide. But in exchange for a good deal of discipline and hard work, you will be able to constantly have beautiful, amazing, women who have all the qualities you want in your life. But that discipline means doing the approaches, it means not giving in to fear, or laziness, or excuses that you know are bullshit. It means working on your skillset until you find the woman (or women) of your dreams and can keep her. One of the things David Deida says in “The Way of The Superior Man” is to stop looking for completion with anything. Life is a process of working on things. You will be dealing with women for the rest of your natural life. You will always be using your skills with women, and trying to develop yourself as a person. Always ,so be disciplined about it but recognize it’s now a part of your routine. Same as showering.

What do you think game is?

I always think of game as having three parts inner psychology, skillset, and lifestyle. This means that the combination these three variables will be your result. A lot of guys fall into the trap of trying to develop a lifestyle, but not having the skillset to take advantage of it. Or guys will sit at home and work on heir inner game until they become too confident to actually feel the need to talk to women. Or guys will go out and just practice routines and lines and they end up like me going to some real dark places because I was getting girls based on what I was doing as opposed to who I was. To me the real beauty of the idea of these three things is working on them all in unison. By understanding your job better or starting to pursue a side passion in addition to your 9-5, you become a more interesting person which helps your skillset because when you talk about yourself you have cooler things to talk about. By gradually changing your ways of thinking by becoming more positive or being less critical you feel better about yourself and people will like you more because you like yourself more. So it all works together and that’s why I’m never going to be teaching more than 6 students at a time EVER again. It’s just not enough personalization. That’s my biggest goal as a teacher, to teach EXACTLY what that particular student needs to get better.

What’s different about what and how you teach?

I always say that I’m a little different because I try out everything. I’ve played around with every different system out there from Brad P’s stuff to Speed Seduction and everything in between. I’m not dogmatic. I recognize that every student is different and what works for one guy because of his unique advantages, another guy may not be suited for. I also believe in efficiency. I don’t want to be running around doing 20-30 approaches a night to get laid. Ideally I want to do one approach and take that specific girl home that night. But at the same time I don’t impose my goals on my students. I think if there is one place where being judgmental has no place, it’s the Secret Underground Internet Seduction Community

Whatever your goals are, chances are I’ve worked on that part of my game be it Making girls fall in love with you for long term relationships(Breakthrough Comfort) or picking up strippers in a strip club, I’ve done it and taught others to do it too. I don’t believe that there are any one perfect system and I won’t claim to have one. But I do have an intimate working knowledge of all systems and I’ve retained what’s worked the fastest for me and my students such as Future, El Topo, Ozzie from RSD, The Don, Braddock, and a ton of guys who got good and left the community because they achieved their goals. That’s what I’m about guys reaching their relationship goals, whatever they may be.

Why did you leave The Mystery Method?

I think at this point of my life, I need to be running my own thing. I have very specific ideas about what I want to do in terms of products, instructor quality etc.. I had a great time working for that company and I’m still friends with a bunch of those guys and continue to endorse them. And they feel the same.

What do you think the biggest mistake guys make with women is?

I think the single biggest mistake guys make is that they freak out when they get a response from a woman that they don’t understand. I’m a big believer in adaptability. Most guys have bought into this idea of the perfect pick-up. They believe that if you larn every routine or tactic or master body language, or whatever you will be able to effortlessly float through all your interactions with women without any awkwardness. That’s entirely the wrong type of thinking. Things will never be perfect and a large part of game is the ability to figure out on the fly why you’re getting a bad response and what you need to do to fix it. But most guys who come to bootcamps , as soon as a girl says something challenging(Even flirtatiously) they clam up or let their discomfort show. To me I NEVER let it seem like I’m uncertain about anything when interacting with women, even when inside I’m frantically trying to figure out what to next. I also don’t shut up when I’m uncomfortable, I talk more. That was a big lesson too, when I first started I would record myself and listen to it over and over to hear the differences between when an interaction worked or didn’t. I noticed that a lot of what I was saying back then didn’t hit. But because I kept talking and changing subjects, eventually something would hook. I think if all guys just remained calm or even just projected a calm demeanor when being tested by women, their results would get 50% better.

Women especially attractive women are always noticing your comfort level around them, be it socially, or sexually. If you telegraph that you don’t know what to do and that you’re looking to her to see if anything is ok, she loses attraction. There was a great quote on the “ Sex and The City “ episode about “modelizers” ( guys who only date models) this guy said that you have to be able to walk up to the hottest girl in the bar and treat her just like every other girl. He further elaborated that the same dogs smell fear women smell a lack of confidence. I agree with both points. But the coolest thing is that you can train yourself through progressive desensitization train yourself to actually become more comfortable in these situations. It’s a matter of reframing them in your mind not as terrifying but as opportunities for growth or as intense experiences. Then regularly pushing yourself out of your comfort zone until your comfort zone expands.

You teach a day game program, talk to me a little about day game.

Day game is really about your ability to be a normal person. Everything slows down during the day and there is much more of a focus on rapport and qualification as opposed to attraction. You also want to be careful not to creep the girl out by being too touchy. I always say you never touch a girl during the day in a way that you would be uncomfortable touching your boss.
I love day game because I think it allows you to practice your skillset all the time. I remember one of the things that always bugged me was seeing that super hot girl walking the opposite direction of me during the day when I knew that if I never talked to her, I would never see her again. That’s why I got in the game. I also think it expands and improves the quality of women that you meet. A hot medical student is unlikely to be up in “da club” at 2 AM on a Wednesday.

The biggest problem guys have meeting women during the day is that they try too hard to get attraction. Most guys confuse sexual attraction ( Which is generated through arousal) with the attraction that we create ( Which is generated through communication). I always try to qualify women as quickly as possible during the day because you have legitimate time constraints and most of the time, the act of looking together and approaching is enough to get attraction.

You also teach a program on picking up strippers any tips on that?

Yeah I originally learned how to pick up strippers from Mystery but as the years went on I came up with a bunch of my own ideas, that contradicted a lot of his stuff. Like the idea of letting a girl sit in your lap while you talk to her, or not hammering at the idea of not being a customer right away. But it wasn’t until I met Shaft in Dallas that my ideas really took off. He was doing a bunch of stuff with compliance and investment that was light yeas ahead of where I was. See stripper game all comes down to the duel between her two sub-personalities. The salesman(Or stripper) and the real girl. This is where the idea of cognitive dissonance comes in because there are only so many things a salesperson can do for you before they start to compromise their beliefs and have to justify that they are doing these things for you not to get a sale but because they like you. So the key is to grow that real girl while not doing anything to make that stripper personality uncomfortable.

What’s your best technique for guys looking to get better at Same Night lays?

I think the biggest factor in SNLs is knowing your logistics and seeding the pull. That means that somewhere in normal conversation you ask the girls what they are doing later. Then when they respond you have a plan that you are going to do. So when 2 Am rolls around they’ve already heard about the after party or the great Crepe place you like to get breakfast at. A lot of SNLs comes from actually having the balls to push risk losing the set. As Brad P says “ Blow me or blow me out.”

What can we expect to see from you now that you’re on your own?

The first thing I’m going to be doing is a tour of all the lairs that will have me all over the world. It’s really important to me to be a man of the people now. I think all of us instructors have spent far too much time in our ivory towers and not enough time meeting and trying to help our fans that make our lifestyle possible. So I want to get out there talk to these guys and tell them how the community helped me and how it can help them if they let it. I also hope that my story serves as a cautionary tale to keep other guys from losing themselves like I did. So if you have a lair and want to get me to come talk to you guys email me at sinnstravel@gmail.com.

I’m also offering personalized routine stacks that focus on teaching guys to convey who they actually are while setting the proper frames and having way points for escalation so even the most basic beginner knows when to move the girl into isolation, ask for a phone number, pull them home… etc.

Finally, I’m going to be coming out with a bunch of products including DVD sets for Breakthrough Comfort, Same Night lays, and Getting Started in the Game. Plus we’ll be releasing a monthly mastermind series where myself, El Topo, and Captain Jack discuss various aspects of game, lifestyle and inner psychology.

I’m going to continue to teach students in field as that’s my roots and allows me to really put my expertise to it’s best use. But I will not be working with everyone. I’m going to actively screen my students to make sure I only work with guys who are committed and dedicated to getting EVERYTHING they want out of their relationship lives. I know it’s possible.

I think I speak for most guys here when I say that I’m looking forward to Sinn’s weekly column here. You can access it via the main navigation at the top.

Why did you get in the seduction community?

I had read the game after just leaving a long relationship. The whole time I was reading it I was thinking “This is ridiculous, you can do this! You would be AMAZING at this. You have been doing this shit since you were a kid!” See, I was an actor at the time and I sort of took this whole “acting” mentality to it in regards to the scripted routines and body language. I figured that all I needed to be the best PUA, was to be the best actor! This of course is the completely wrong way to look at it, and I realize that now, but acting did help me “fake” my social skills early on while I was still learning, and a lot of acting principles such as tonality, subtext and creating presence are still extremely relevant to attraction. But to answer your question, I got involved in the seduction community because I *knew* I would be amazing at it. I wasn’t at first, in fact I was downright terrible when I started, but I never lost that confidence and thats what kept pushing me forward.

Why did you choose the name Cajun?

I had made a documentary on my Acadian heritage while I was in Film school. Cajun, if you didn’t know, is actually a mispronunciation of the word “Acadian”. Anyways, the film won some awards so from that point on everyone started calling me “That Cajun guy” and that eventually got shortened to “Cajun”.

What is your life like now with women?

Its great! I have lots of really great women in my life. I actually only realized a few weeks ago how lucky I am. I was really sick for a couple days and, after passing out for the better portion of a day, awoke to find 5 different messages on my phone from female friends asking me If I was ok and wanting to come over and take care of me. It was pretty sweet, and they did end up coming over and bringing soup and what not. My parties always rock too because the ratio of girls to guys is always at least 2 to 1, so im pretty popular with the guys as well haha.

What is one of your favorite routines?

The questions game. It’s an old one but I customized it and it makes dates go AMAZINGLY well. I’ve started using it in the bar too, although I condensed it. Works just as well. I hope you don’t mind me not explaining it, as I save it for my bootcamps and 1on1s, sorry for dangling the carrot haha!

Do you use props? If so, what would be the one that gets the most reaction?

No, not really. I mean, I wear a lot of cool clothes and sunglasses and stuff but nothing I would call a “prop”. I really like my belt buckle and of course any of my vintage LED ZEPPELIN T-shirts. My house has lots of cool stuff in it too, including a murderous black kitten named Rod Stewart.

Can you relate one of your favorite field reports?

Actually a really funny one happened this past weekend in New York. Me and Tenmagnet (his interview) have this game called “Jaggering” where we make each other dance like Mick Jagger whenever you say “Do your best Jagger!”. The thing is, you can call someone out to do it at any time, no matter what, and if you don’t then you have to take a shot of liquid kryptonite, which is actually just your most feared liquor (I got a shot of dry vermouth! *vomit*)

Anyways, after forcing each other to Jagger ourselves silly while talking to girls all night, I ended up going home with this actress who lived right downtown. While we were making out on her bed I get a text from Tenmagnet that says “Do your best Jagger!” so without hesitation I got up and started Jaggering all around her bed, doing the rooster walk, the lip seal, the clap, all the signature moves while humming “miss you”. Completely baffled, she was like “What the fuck are you doing!?” I just laughed, told her it was my mating dance, and then went back to business. Tenmagnet got a kick out of that when I told him the next day haha.

You won Keys to the VIP. Can you explain your experience with that?

Yeah that was actually a lot of fun. They had contacted me after finding out I was a working PUA in Toronto. I actually couldn’t even do the show at first because I was busy with the seminars, so I recommended my cousin who had helped out at a couple seminars and was a student of the game himself. In the end I was actually free the weekend of the shoot and I went along as moral support for my cousin. During the shoot they realized that the challenger just wasn’t working on camera so they asked me to go on and “Save the show” At that point there was only about 90 mins left before the bar closed so I got mic’d up and did the challenges as fast as I could. At first I thought that the cameras were always on me so I did a set before they found me in the crowd with the Cameras and ended up having the girls arguing over who gets to give me their number. The producer could hear everything and started yelling at the guys over the radio to get the camera on me haha, after that they always made sure the camera was on me.

With most of your students, what is there biggest sticking point?

Body language, hands down. If a student has that down then everything else is a breeze. Its also one of the hardest things to teach, not because its hard to demonstrate or implement, but because it takes a while to get comfortable with changing the way your body naturally moves. It’s usually what I spend the most time correcting on my 1on1s.

What methods have you used to become comfortable with women?

I actually try not to read anything in the “community” unless its something that I’ve already thought about and tried to master myself, mostly because I try to get my own feel for how things should work by my own field experience. Magic Bullets however makes up the core of what I believe is “essential” with regards to reading material for beginners. It gives great insight into just about every subject that has to do with getting the women you want. It’s the same model I used to get good and it’s written incredibly well, Savoy’s style is refreshing compared to a lot of the other stuff out there, so it’s very easy to read.

Which pick up artists have inspired you the most?

Tenmagnet is hands down the guy whom I’ve learned the most from. Neil Strauss got me into the whole thing from reading his book, so I suppose he should be mentioned. TD’s earlier posts gave me some insight into how valuable taking an analytical approach could be, which helped me tremendously as I was learning. Other than them, I suppose Errol Flynn would be my favourite classical pick-up artist, I based my moustache off his for a while haha.

What did you learn from them?

Tenmagnet taught me the basis for nearly everything I know. Every time I needed an answer he would have it, even to this day, I still ask him for advice, and he always delivers. His style was also a great one to base mine off of because it was so natural, as mine was also, so I think that affected the speed at which I learned, everything he taught me came so easy since it fit in so perfectly with my personality.

Read more of the exact techniques Cajun used on Keys To The Vip check out my review of the Love Systems Routines Manual and Magic Bullets.

Why did you get in the seduction community?

It all really started when I typed “why do girls like badboys” into Ask Jeeves, one of those old search engines that died when Google got big. Somehow, that led me to Fastseduction.com and other community websites, but all I did for a long time was read, and never really practiced much. Then one day I was in a bar and ran into Tyler Durden, Mystery, Twentysix (Extramask in the game) and a bunch of other guys. I recognized Mystery and introduced myself. I wound up hanging out with those guys for several months just before they left for Project Hollywood, and I actually almost went to Project Hollywood, but I had to finish school.

What was your biggest sticking point?

My biggest sticking point was having no balls. I wouldn’t talk to girls, and when I WOULD talk to girls, I wouldn’t take any risks in the conversation, I wouldn’t try to move it anywhere. Also, I thought too much and over-analyzed things.

Why did you choose the name Tenmagnet?

This story is hilarious. When I first started going out and opening, I had a bit of a problem. I would warm up on some (ahem) less attractive (ahem) girls at the beginning of the night, and they would wind up LOVING me way too much and buying me drinks and following me around and stuff. So I called myself Sixmagnet…. as in a magnet for sixes. I thought it was a funny joke, but eventually I dealt with that problem and changed my name to Tenmagnet. I’d have to say though, in full honesty, I’m more of a nine point five-magnet.

What is your life like now with women?

My life with women is fantastic. I don’t talk publicly about my love life in any detail, since the girls I date know how to use Google and frankly I find it pretty tacky, but my love life is basically all I could ask for. If anything, I feel like I’ve been doing the player thing for a bit too long now, and I’m keeping my eyes out for a girl that can challenge me and be a good long term girlfriend… but I’m not in a big hurry.

What is one of your favorite routines?

All of my favorite routines are real stories about my life. I guess one of my favorites is a really awesome story I tell about how Johnny Cash rules, and I basically turn women into Johnny Cash fans.

I like my women, and I like my Johnny Cash; but what I LOVE is women that like Johnny Cash.

Do you use props? If so, what would be the one that gets the most reaction?

I wear a giant silver codpiece and carry a fencing sword.

Nah, just kidding, I have an iPod video with a picture of my little cousin on it. I show girls the photo of my cousin, and they (always) look through the rest of the photos. Of course, the rest of the photos make me look like some superman rockstar. The best thing about this prop is that it’s totally smooth… They were sneaking around and just happened to find a treasure trove of stuff that makes me look awesome.

Can you relate one of your favorite field reports?

There’s the time I sarged Kursten Dunst. Otherwise, I don’t write field reports. You’ll understand when the love of your life finds your field reports.

I was there doing a one-on-one with a student who I will refer to as K (don’t know if he posts here). We were walking through the NoLita neighborhood checking for sets, on the way to meet up with some of K’s friends. We has spent all afternoon doing day game, and were a little bit “sarged out”. I was looking forward to sitting down, having a beer and watching the hockey game (the Stanley Cup was on).

Walking down the street, I see a girl sitting outside a fancy-pants bar smoking a cigarette. K says to me, “do you think that was Kursten Dunst”, and I say… “nahh….. was it?”

No lie guys, Kirsten Dunst was having a cigarette outside this bar, and I wasn’t going to let that opportunity go by!

So, we turn around, and head into the bar in question. It’s totally packed, and I quickly ascertain that Kirsten is in a back corner, surrounded by an entourage of about 8 people. There is no lock in position, and it looks like a tough situation.

I talk to the waiter, and arrange for us to get the table closest to theirs, it will be at least 20 minutes.

I decide my best bet is to sarge her when she goes out for her next cigarette, there will be an interrupt 10 minutes in (as they finish their cigarettes and go inside), but that’s enough time to get locked into a set, to the point where they’re pursuing conversation with me.

I buy a cigarette off a guy nearby and get ready…

Kirsten walks out with 2 friends (guy and girl) to have a cigarette… I pause a minute or so, and join them.

10M: “Hey, (to Kirsten’s friend) can I get a light?”
Entourage: “No problem”…
10M: “Allright (engaging guy and girl, ignoring Kirsten), check this out. My buddy, Dave, just called me to say he can’t make it out tonight, because (jealous girlfreind opener)… are like, New York girls crazy or what?”
Entourage: Yada yada yada…

10M: “Ok, check out my crazy New Yorker story… this just happened to me today, and I’m visiting from out of town”
Kirsten: “Are you from Canada?? ABOOT ABOOT… I can tell!!!”
10M: “Listen, little one, don’t make me come down there!… So I’m at the corner of 1st and 60th, and this old, beat up car comes to the intersection. It’s spewing black, oily smoke, and there’s actually FLAME licking out from under the bumper… like an honest to goodness FLAME.”

“So I try and wave this guy down, and he doesn’t see me. So I walk in front of the car, yelling ‘DUDE!! YOUR CAR IS ON FIRE!! GET OUT’… and the guy’s window is open, and he can hear me. And you know what he does???”

(at this point, I make a face and give Kirsten Dunst and her entourage the finger)..”He flips me the bird and drives off in his burning fucking car!!!”

(Everyone laughs)

Kirsten: “New Yorkers are so mean” (kinos me)..

I’m thinking to myself… “Did Kirsten Dunst just kino me? Did she just run her hand down my arm??”

Yes she did… and it was legit.

I holds out my hands in front of me… Kirsten puts her hands in mine, palm down (IOI).

I look at her palms, raise my eyebrow and say “Hmm… interesting”, and push her palms away.

Kirsten: “What… what???”

I walk past Kirsten and lean against some fancy car parked in front of the club… the alarm doesn’t go off (thankfully… that would have sucked BAD). Kirsten follows.

Kirsten Dunst is now facing me, as I lean up against some fancy car, and her hands are in mine. I begin running a palmreading routine.

Kirsten is eating up my palmreading routine, but at this point her friends have finished their cigarettes, and are going inside. I’m losing Kirsten – she is being pulled away by her friends, and feels uncomfortable being outside, alone, with a guy she just met. I’m also at a good point in the palmreading routine, where I feel she is hooked on hearing the end of it… if an interrupt is to come, this is the best time for it.

10M: “Your friends are leaving… go join them… shoo”. And I push her away… she smiles at me and goes back into the bar.

As I get back into the bar, the waiters are just about ready to give us our seats… very good. We wait a few minutes, and start to take our seats.

As we sit down, Kirsten’s table gets up to leave. I’m like “crap!!!” and start thinking of what I can do to save this sarge. They go outside, and I pop out 30 seconds later (don’t want to look like I’m chasing them), and they’re already halfway down the street… and just like that, Kirsten Dunst is gone!

Oh well… it was an awesome experience. And the really cool thing that I noticed was that Kirsten Dunst is a really normal girl… like there wasn’t any difference between sarging her and any other girl you meet at a club. It was really cool to realize that even celebs like Kirsten Dunst are just normal girls, with normal interests, insecurities and regular lives. No doubt, next time I run into a celebrity, I’ll be ready!

Cajun won Rules to the VIP. Can you explain what it was like to see a former student do that?

It’s great… Seeing your students succeed is one of the best feelings you can get. Every week I get emails from former students who have achieved their goals, and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. Cajun was an awesome student, he was really perceptive and observant. A lot of the time, he would tell me that he learned things from me that I didn’t even teach him, he just watched me in action and reverse-engineered what I was doing. And I was like “oh yeah, I do do that, don’t I?”.

What methods have you used to become comfortable with women?

The only method I’ve used is getting off my ass and pushing myself. The way you get comfortable with women is you go out and talk to women. Work on your body language and get chilled, and you’ll start getting good reactions from the women you talk to. Pretty quickly, once women start giving you good reactions when you talk to them, you’ll start feeling comfortable with women.

Nothing works like success.

Which pick up artists have inspired you the most?

Every time I hang out with other PUA’s, I get inspired and learn things. I’d have to say that the guys who influenced me the most early on were TwentySix and Tyler Durden. More recently, guys like Future and Dahunter have shown me things that really changed my game.

What did you learn from them?

From Twentysix, the notion that picking up should be fun. From Future, a million ways that you can be really direct and strong and lead a woman, and Dahunter has this bodylanguage that is a million times more relaxed than I thought you could get away with. Dahunter’s bodylanguage is so chilled you think he’s going to fall over sometimes.

You trained Cajun. Can you tell us what he was like?

Cajun (his interview) was smart and driven. He didn’t make excuses and he just did what I told him to. “Go approach that set”… “Tell those girls you like salad, and then try and turn that into a conversation”, whatever I gave him, he just went for it. He had no shame, no fear.

Also, he was chilled. He knew how to just turn the game off and be a normal dude. To be honest, not a lot of guys in the community can just sit and have a beer with you and talk about movies or sports or something, Cajun can do that. That’s why we became friends.

How did you tailor his training?

Every time Cajun would do something wrong, I slapped him upside the head.

Every student has a unique set of issues that you need to deal with. Thankfully I have enough experience that I can pretty much identify a student’s problems within 10 minutes of meeting them. Cajun tried to hard and talked too much and negged too much, but he learned quick. After that, it was just a matter of refining things.

What specific sticking points did you notice with him?

Cajun, like many guys in the game, talked too much. A girl would be totally into him, and instead of kissing her or taking her home, he would read her palm and spit game at her. So I chewed him out a few times. Cajun is smart, I didn’t have to teach him things twice.

If you want to learn directly from Tenmagnet, this weekend is your chance. He is a featured speaker at the Love Systems Super Conference. Check it out, it should be a great event.

I finally spoke with David Wygant a few days ago, and this is a coach who has been teaching guys how to be successful with women and dating long before the seduction community was popular. In this candid interview, David unloads about how he got his start, successful places to meet women, killer ways to increase your charisma, client experiences, and what you can expect by using his proven dating strategies.

DONOVAN: My first question is how did you get your start as a dating coach?

DAVID WYGANT: You know, that’s a great question. I get asked that question all the time. And I’ve been doing this for ten years now, and I was doing it before it was really cool. You know, there was a couple guys of guys around – actually there was one guy around that I knew who was doing it when I did it and that was Ross Jeffries and as you know Ross does more seduction and NLP stuff and there was a couple of other guys but I didn’t really know them and it was just – it was like one of those things that I wanted to do something to help people but I wasn’t quite sure what it was so I moved to Los Angeles from San Diego.

I was teaching sales seminars and motivational seminars about how to become rich, and the problem was that everyone wanted to become rich but no one wanted to do the work, so it wasn’t really fun teaching these people because they just wanted to make money but didn’t want to develop the inner confidence so I was in Los Angeles and I was really tired of bars and clubs and everything else. I thought bars and clubs were for people that – you know for kids in their twenties. You know, I just didn’t want to do it anymore.

I didn’t want to stand in a bar, so I started dating out of the Coffee Bean in Brentwood and Whole Foods in Brentwood and Blockbuster. And I would hang out on a Saturday and these guys would ask me how my week was and I’d say “It’s great. I met this girl Tuesday night. We went out Tuesday night. I met this other girl when I was renting a movie Wednesday and went to her house and rented a movie with her.” And all of a sudden these guys started following me into Whole Foods. Every time I went there to get a sandwich, I would say “Watch my dog” and they would say “No, we want to watch you in Whole Foods.” And they would follow me, and they would take notes, and they said “This is like a bootcamp, man. This is so cool!” And the numbers started increasing. It started with two and one weekend I looked around – I had 20 guys sitting there waiting for me to get up. Every time I got up, they got up. Every time I sat down, they sat down. And I looked at this, and I looked around, and I realized that there was probably a good salary sitting there.

DONOVAN: (Laughs)

DAVID WYGANT: And I was like “This is crazy, I can charge for this!” Then I started charging, and people started coming to it, and that’s how the bootcamps grew. I mean, I did this based on really trying to find something that really suited my personality that I would love.

DONOVAN: That’s awesome! How did you get good at dating to become an authority in it?

DAVID WYGANT: You know, it’s funny. Dating I learned – and you know there were a couple of moments in my life. You know, one, I realized that standing around in a bar or a restaurant was a waste of time. I remember one – no, I remember two things. I was living in Colorado. I was walking out of the supermarket. My hair was standing up on end. I just had a two hour massage. I just worked twelve hours. And you know you’re in that mindset where you’re just not in the mood to talk. And this gorgeous woman walked in, and you know how it is. It’s like slow-motion when they walk in, right? And then all of a sudden I saw her and she smiled and I smiled at her and the next thing you know – I just – she walked by me, I walked by her, I walked to the car – like any average chump would do. Got in the car, started the car, and I realized at that moment “What am I doing? What the fuck? What am I doing? Why am I not going in there and talking to her?” And, you know, then I thought to myself “What am I going to say to her? What am I going to do?” And it’s not like I didn’t have game. It’s not like I wasn’t good with women. I just didn’t recognize opportunities all the time.

I decided that was going to be the night I was going to tell the truth. So I walked in – I turned the car off, I walked in the market, I saw her in the fruits and vegetables section. I walked over, I looked at her, and said “Hey.” I said “Don’t say a word.” She said “Why?” And I told her exactly what I did – I went to the car, I thought about it. I was thinking about what to say. You know I started laughing a little bit. She started laughing. When I was done with my little speech, you know, my minute speech, she looked at me and goes “My name is …” And of course I don’t remember what her name was because it was such a long time ago, right? We spent the next three days together. And that moment made me realize that opportunities were everywhere and I was just wasting time. And, I mean, I’ve been in a lot of people-related businesses – bars and so forth – so I just started meeting women everywhere and started realizing that if you treat women like you treat your friends, and if you’re honest and you talk to them and if you have no expectations, then you can become phenomenal at dating and women would start calling and chasing you. And it just became this like snowball effect. I mean I would study people, but it’s just – I mean – it’s a lifetime – I’m 45 – it’s a lifetime of experience to get me where I am right now.

DONOVAN: Wow. The next question, can you relate a success story about one of your coaching clients?

DAVID WYGANT: I’ve got so many. I’ve coached over 1000 people privately from my bootcamps and everything, but I’ll give you probably one of my favorite stories over the last couple of weeks. Because every week I work with different people. And I’m going to tell you about a guy who came to one of my bootcamps. He was a guy that was, he was not bad lookin’, you know just what everyone would consider an average guy. You know, nice smile, kinda short. You know, insecure. Absolutely could not meet a woman ANYWHERE, except you know unless she fell in his lap and it was easy.

So we’re doing the bootcamp and we’re walking around. And when I do a bootcamp I’m taking guys out. I’m with them the entire time. I’m engaging. I’m teaching them. I’m teaching them how to meet women. So we’re standing on the street, and I said to him “Look, I’m going to get a sandwich. Here’s my dog.” So, you know, my dog sat by his side cause my dog doesn’t need a leash and sat by the side. All of a sudden he sees this woman, and he thinks to himself “What would David do in this situation?” Right? So she’s walking a dog. All of a sudden he blurts out something like “I don’t know if our dogs make a good match. What do you think?” He said ANYTHING – but based on what I taught him: the power of observation – relating to something a woman’s already thinking about – her dog. She stopped. They started talking. Another one of the guys in the bootcamp migrated over. He tried to butt in the conversation. She pushed him out and started talking to him.

I went out there and I figured I wanted to check up on him. I started trying to talk to the girl. She pushed me out and kept talking to him. Finally after about 15 minutes, she looks at him and says “Well maybe I’ll see you around the neighborhood.” He says “Well, I don’t live here.” She says “Well, that doesn’t matter. We should get together another time.” And he says “Absolutely.” And she wrote her phone number on his arm cause he didn’t have a piece of paper nor his cell phone with me cause I had a no cell phone rule during the bootcamp. He looked at me and he said to me, he said “David,” he said “A woman picked me over you. Obviously I learned some pretty good shit this weekend!”

DONOVAN: (Laughs) Nice!

DAVID WYGANT: And that to me made me so happy, because you know what? It’s all about the student and all about teaching them how to really relate perfectly to women. But man, my student outdoing me after a weekend means that I did my job cause that never happened to him in his entire life.

He never met a beautiful – I mean this woman was not average looking. She was hot, and the moral of the story is: Any guy can meet any woman because I’ve been coaching women too for 10 years, and what men don’t realize is that men are so visual and we find something we like and immediately we get a crush on it. But women, they don’t know what they like until you walk in with confidence, attitude and everything else. All of a sudden you might be short and bald, and the woman will go “Oh my God, I’m so turned on by the short bald guy because of the way he’s carrying himself and the way he talks and listens to me.” It’s really that simple.

DONOVAN: That’s awesome. And what do you think guys greatest mistake with women is?

DAVID WYGANT: The greatest mistake guys make with women is that they think they have to memorize a routine to meet a woman. Guys make it so much harder for themselves than it really is. I am so anti-routine, it’s unbelievable. You know, I look at routines and I think to myself “Why would some guy want to be a robot, because once that robotic routine is over you go out on a date – the next thing you know you go out on a date, the woman expects the robotic routine guy and you’re still the same person. So what guys don’t realize is that women are so easy to meet if you spend time working on your inner game. And how do you work on inner game? You develop real confidence, ok? You start observing life. You start observing women. You start looking at what they’re doing, and you talk to to them about things they’re doing at the moment so the conversation is casual.

For instance, if a woman is in a supermarket. She’s standing in line behind you, and she has a bag of chips, a thing of sushi and some orange juice. Make a comment about her food cause she’s already thinking about it. The next thing you know, you’re having a casual conversation based on the food and she starts talking about your food and you can start leveling down in that conversation. What guys think they have to do, is they think they have to come up with something really clever. But it’s not being clever, it’s being observant and saying something that’s in the moment because guys ruin it by being routine-based and they take a woman out of their mindset and then the woman looks at them as “Why is this idiot performing a routine on me?” They’ve seen them already, so I teach guys how to be real and not be the cliché. So guys don’t realize how simple it is to talk to women. I think that’s the number one thing they don’t realize is that you just need to say something, and if you say it with authority a woman’s going to respond to you.

DONOVAN: Yeah. I think a lot of the reasons guys use a routine is because they haven’t had that success with women, and they – they’re looking for, uh, sort of something that can bridge that gap for them in their mind. But, what – with that – I know you’re anti-routine, what is the best way for a guy to become more observant and become more charismatic in a natural way?

DAVID WYGANT: You know it’s really easy, and something I do with every client. I just did it with a client in DC, and the guys, and in one week he transformed his entire life. He used to go out and think about what to say, think about what to do. And I said “You know what? Instead of doing this – Instead going out there thinking about the date and trying to get the number, spend two days just observing and walking around your life. Take a notebook with you. Take your BlackBerry. Do some mental notes, you know, type in some mental notes on your BlackBerry.

Go around and every time you see a woman, observe what she’s doing. So you’re in supermarket. You see a woman. She’s looking at Cap’n Crunch. Write down ‘I saw a woman in Whole Foods today looking at Cap’n Crunch.’” Then the next exercise is, “What would you say to her in that situation?” And it’s funny. We’ve been taught to be so anti-intuitive our entire life, that if you go back to the basics and you start working on your intuition again, all of a sudden you start coming up with your own opening lines. And I’ve got a lot of products that teach guys how to come up with their own openers and get comfortable with it, because your own opener is the best thing because you can actually talk about it. So this client of mine went in. This is actually a story from his existence. He actually was in Whole Foods. This woman looked at Peanut Butter Bumpers. All of a sudden he did this exercise, and he said “Peanut Butter Bumpers? What are you – a child?” Right?

He sent all his own openers back to me over the next two days, and I said to him “Everything you thought about was actually 100% correct because you stopped thinking and started reacting.” When you stop thinking and start reacting, the things you initially think about are the most powerful openers that you could possibly come up with because there are things that you notice. That’s why bars don’t work, because there’s nothing in a bar that really – you really have to be very clever and you really have to be very funny and I’ve got five or six openers for bars that work. But you know what, in every day life you’re doing things that you normally do so you have something to talk about in every situation. And when you have something to talk about in every situation, you’re able to actually open her based on something you’re already knowledgeable about so you’ll have a conversation instead of wondering what to say.

DONOVAN: Huh. That’s a good point! In your personal experience, what’s the best place and/or location to find a quality girlfriend?

DAVID WYGANT: Uh, there’s so many quality girlfriends. I believe in breaking it down into 20, 20, 20, 20, 20 – that’s five twenties. My math is off. Um, I like the Internet, for one. Um, the Internet’s wonderful for a couple reasons, and I do the Internet a lot different. I don’t contact women – I see who looked at me and I basically contact them and I bust them. I’ve got a great Internet opener I use all the time. I like to do your daily routine.

Your daily routine should be broken down. 20% of it should be your lunch routine, meaning where do you go to lunch every single day. You see the same people every day. Your office building you see the same people every single day. On a subway to work if you live in a city. On a bus to work if you take a bus. You know, whatever it might be. Whatever you do during the day are things that you need to start doing because you can talk to people who work in the same area so you’ll have something in common. Another thing is your daily routines on the weekends.

Those are really good too because women are really vulnerable on the weekends because what happens is – is that they’ve been chased by a bunch of horny hungry drunken wolves on a Friday night and they’re alone on a Saturday. I love to meet women alone on a Saturday and Sunday, anywhere from the malls to the bookstores. You know, just doing the things I like to do. Because if you do what you like to do, and women are doing what they like to do, you’ve got something to talk about. Then I like parties. I like to get invited to little parties. Maybe art gallery openings. Maybe, you know, store openings. Whatever it is. Get invited to some sort of party, because once again that’s something that might be an interest of you and you’re able to go and actually have a conversation.

Then the last bit – the last little bit – is just going out at night. But I like to go out and do alternate nights. Instead of going out to a bar on a Friday night, I’ll go to like – I’ll go to a bookstore and I’ll go talk to a woman in a bookstore because, you know, she doesn’t want to deal with drunken guys. Or I’ll go to cafes where women are sitting at. There are a lot of coffee shops that are really cool at night, and women are there trying to get away from the hungry horny guys, so I’ll go in, bring a book and a magazine, and I’ll start a conversation.

I tell a guy to look at your entire life, figure out the things you like to do – the five or six things you like to do – look at where you find women, and that’s where you start cultivating meetings that are natural and easy.

DONOVAN: Huh. Umm. Ok. I’m just going through some of my questions here. Some of them are self-evident by this point. (Laughs) Would you have any techniques or methods for enlarging your social circle?

DAVID WYGANT: Yeah, I mean there’s a couple different things. And what men make – you know guys, men, boys, whatever it is, whoever’s listening to this and reading this – the number one mistake that guys make besides trying to complicate things, is that they just don’t enlarge their social circle. Meaning, that they’re out. They’re, you know, they’re sitting in a coffee shop and they’re waiting for the one woman that they’re attracted to to walk in. I tell them to talk to everybody. Talk to the men.

Talk to the women. Because what happens is the more people you get to know, the easier it is to meet people. For instance, when I moved to Los Angeles I went to Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf, sat there, talked to every single person, and after a month when I went to the supermarket and the woman – the chubby woman I wasn’t really attracted to but I talked to her cause she was really nice- I ran into her at Whole Foods and she had a beautiful friend with her. I walked directly over to her and I already – I had instant social proof. You know, I was a friend of hers. I got to meet her good-looking friend. So I tell guys talk to everybody. Remember things about everybody.

I don’t care if it’s the person cutting your meat and putting, you know, the roast beef on your sandwich. I don’t care if it’s the person who works at the Post Office. Cause all these people are people who will enlarge your social circle, and each of them will introduce you to that beautiful woman without you having to do anything. It’s about attracting women, and this attracts them. It’s such a simple approach that most men forget to do.

DONOVAN: Hmm. Something I’ve found because I live in a cold climate, and it’s a desolate region, what are some things – some date ideas – that you have for people who live in the not-so-glamorous areas of the country?

DAVID WYGANT: Well, here’s the thing. I mean first dates to me are just – if you’re going to go out to dinner, you’re conducting an interview. I like dates – I like dates that are fun, and women like dates that are adventurous. So I like to head indoors. One of my favorite things to do, and I set it up perfectly with a woman on the phone. I’ll start talking to her a little bit, you know, and I’ll say “You know what? I haven’t been to Target in so long. I’ve got to get some stuff for the house.” Women love Target. I mean, they just love it. I mean, it’s like, it’s fun. You can go to Target and it’s like an adult playground. You can go there and play baseball in the middle of the aisles. You can sit in the home and garden section and crack open a box of wine. I mean, there’s plenty of things to do. But what I like to do is go to Target cause it’s an adventure date inside. And when I get there. You know, we’re shopping a little bit. I look at her and go “Do you want to play a game? Have you played Treasure Hunt yet?” She’ll say “What’s Treasure Hunt?” because women are like little kids. Man, they just want to have a good time. And I’ll go “Treasure Hunt – I’ll tell you what. I’m feeling really generous today.

You can buy anything – or, you know what, I’ll buy you ANYTHING for $1.79. No, make it $1.73. But you’ve got to find something for EXACTLY $1.73, and you can spend the next two hours COMBING, combing Target for stuff that’s a buck seventy-three.” And she’ll put it in, she’ll look at it, she’ll try to bargain an extra nickel, she’ll be willing to put a dime in to get something else. I mean, it’s a blast and it’s fun, and then she has a takeaway from the date. She remembers that date. And that means so much more to her than a bottle of wine spent in a restaurant. Other things I like to do – go to like, you know, kind of small little stores and walk around. Go to the mall and walk around.

You know, do things that are just activity dates so you don’t have to be sitting across from each other. I like to take a walk in the park, then go grab some hot chocolate in a cool little cafe. That way you get warm together. You get to talk about, you know, things, but, you know, active moving instead of sitting.

DONOVAN: Ok. Then to sum it up, what products do you have that are your basic fundamental products and what do they help with specifically?

DAVID WYGANT: I’ve got a lot of different products. I’d say, but one of the products – it depends on what the guy’s looking for. I mean, my favorite product is my Men’s Mastery Series for every reason because it’s 8 hours of pure, you know, inner game to outer game. It’s going to teach you how to be confident. It’s going to teach you how to observe women. It’s going to teach you how to understand women. It’s going to teach you how to open women. It’s going to teach you how to have sex with women. It’s going to show you how to be the man that women are looking for, but what it’s gonna do is it’s really going to open your eyes to everything because – It’s funny, a guy just ordered my, uh, Mastery Series a few days ago. He lives in Brazil. He used one of my observational openers that I have in the Mastery Series, and he met one of the biggest tv stars that in Brazil.

Because he didn’t get intimidated. There’s an exercise I have in there that teaches you how to – how to basically turn on sexual chemistry and elevate sexual attraction within the first 15 seconds, because what men don’t realize is that women think of sex IMMEDIATELY. If you walk over to them the correct way, and I teach men the walk. If you walk correctly over to a woman and look at her the way she wants to be looked at, she’s going to look at you as her next potential sex partner immediately. And there’s a few tricks that I teach guys in there. But I really go through everything on teaching men how to be a real man instead of a performing robot who’s routine-based. It teaches you how to be natural and attract, and have women come after you instead of you chasing women all the time.

I’m going to be adding David Wygant to my list of Top Dating Coaches of 2007 because I’ve had many readers email me and ask me to include him. I was so impressed with David that I’m trying to convince him to start an exclusive column here, it might be a hard sell, but I’m gonna do my best. – Donovan

Here are David’s flagship products:

How did you get your start in the seduction community?

Well, I actually started researching this back in the 90s, way back before there was ANYTHING online about dating and attraction with women. I remember the first book I got that hinted that there might be more to getting a girlfriend than giving flowers to her and calling her for dates. It was called “Love Tactics.” It’s a bit elementary now, but it was revelatory for me back then. I still have my copy, and it’s battered and highlighted from years of speculation and developing my ideas about the concepts.

It started with what I consider to be the most important concept of all in interpersonal dynamics: Push-Pull.

This once principle covers more about the psychology of attraction than almost anything else.

From there I created my first e-book (The Dating Black Book) to explain the complete “Dating Dynamic” so that you can understand women and how things work in the attraction cycle. Short term and long term.

After that I created a whole curriculum for guys who want to learn how to have a full Alpha Lifestyle, from approaching women, to reaching your personal goals, to making the relationship YOU want to have. I really think it’s all about choice.

I’ve been a guest on David D’s Interviews with Dating Gurus program, as well as a guest and keynote speaker with many of the conferences.

I’ve also done radio and television to help get this information out to as many of my Alpha Brothers out there as I can. Next month, I’ll be in LA as part of the Mystery Method Superconference.

What is your life like now with women?

I have no scarcity in my life with women. I find that women are constantly trying to be a part of my life, and that is very gratifying.

My personal philosophy is to date many women, and then look for the best prospect from the bunch to give my time to. I don’t waste my time or jeopardize my confidence and self-esteem by chasing after women. I let the best candidate raise her hand and make it clear that she’s the one for the role.

I maintain a level of self-respect that ensures that I am a prize in HER eyes, first and foremost. Then I can feel much more confident giving her my attention and focus.

It’s a bit of a philosophical stance, but it’s CRITICAL to guys out there who are on this path to realize that if you feel that you need to “prove yourself” to the women you want, you’re sacrificing an essential part of your self-respect.

Women want to BUY, not BE SOLD.

Right now, I’m in a relationship with a beautiful Filipino woman – who wants to be a WOMAN for me. Not my competition to be the Man. (Watch out for those women, guys!)

You’ve been around for a few years now, but some guys haven’t heard of you. What are your fundamental teachings?

REAL Game is what I teach.

What is “REAL Game”?

The philosophy is that you will attract any woman you want more effectively if you come from a place of being REAL with her. Not to be confused with that lame advice of “just be yourself.”

And, it’s also a double-acronym…

Here’s how it goes…

R = Relaxed & Resourceful

Relaxation is at the heart of all successful game AND good self- confidence. And you can’t be resourceful to use all those techniques you learned without being relaxed. An anxious state is your enemy when it comes to dating and pickup.

E = Effective & Energized

Effective, meaning that you use only techniques that are as congruent as possible to YOU. Energized meaning that you have to jack up your energy level a few notches. Most guys are not projecting their inner power and personality outward. They keep it hidden from view, and that kills attraction.

A = Alpha & Authentic

The Alpha Man is my model for the modern dominant man that knows and is confident in his masculine traits. You can read about this in most of my programs. Authentic means that you need to be genuine. I’m not saying “just be you,” because that’s worthless advice. You need to be the BEST you possible.

L = Lifestyle & Lasting

The only way to become truly successful with women (or A woman) over the long term is to make these attraction skills a part of your LIFE. You don’t just approach women at a bar or club – you approach them everywhere you go. Otherwise, they won’t last.

That’s a brief overview of my philosophy.

How do you differ from other gurus?

Well, I’m good friends with most of these guys in the “community,” but I really don’t limit my scope to just that area. I really feel that this is about overcoming a major social problem with the emasculation of men.

Now, I’m not some kind of conspiracy nut or something. In fact, I really believe that most of the things people think of as conspiracies are just the slippery slope of our natural tendencies toward laziness.

But in the last 30 years, there has been a distinct FEMINIST slant to everything, and guys need to maintain their strength against this to remain attractive to women.

I differ from most of the other “gurus” in that I show guys the COMPLETE picture. It’s not JUST about pickup and attracting women.

In fact, if that’s all you focus on, your self-esteem will actually suffer – along with your lifestyle.

You must make pickup and attraction skills part of an overall Alpha Lifestyle. What I mean by this is that you have to be working on your own life – and be happy WITHOUT women before you will be able to truly attract the women you want. Or you will not keep them.

Being attractive isn’t just skin deep for guys – it has to go right to the BONE.

Can you relate one of your favorite field reports either personally or one of your students?

Well, I am a very private person by nature, but I always share information that helps guys understand the Game better and improve.

There has been a big focus these days on “hidden video” and things like that, which really don’t help your skills with women. In fact, too much focus on watching OTHER people do this stuff is going to get you all messed up because you become what I call “hyper-analytical.” That’s basically where you just can’t let go of the need to compare yourself to unreasonable examples.

I’ll relate a story of my friend in Seattle. When I went up to the lair up there to present and do a mini-bootcamp, we went to a really fun bar up there. (The name escapes me at the moment.)

While we were there, one of the guys comes over to me and says, “Man, I just wrecked this set I approached. It was bad.”

I asked him what had happened. He said he went over, opened up the girl he found really attractive, and used some canned material. After about a minute, he lost her attention and he felt that old “back turn”
syndrome, where the woman just uses her body language to reject you.

Well, after I found out how he was using a bunch of fake, canned material, I asked him what he would do if he was being REAL with this woman. I suggested he go back and just say to her, “Hey, you know what, I f***ed up. I came over here before trying to impress you and being a little much. I just thought you had a really nice energy about you and I wanted to get to know you better. Care to try again?”

And that worked like a champ. Her body language changed, his changed, and they got on much better. It was night and day.

What is your new Power Social Skills all about and why should a guy get it?

Well, I was inspired by an old book from the 1960s that talked about all these complicated social games we all play with each other. I started noticing how people are playing games ALL the time.

Then I thought, wouldn’t it be great if someone could explain all these games so we don’t have to get caught up in all the nonsense?

This program is the first program I’ve created for guys to use to really build their social skills from the ground up.

ALL attraction skills have their roots in what I call Power Social Skills. The skills you use to approach women comfortably, to build rapport, to get attraction – these are all developed from basic social skills.

Have you ever been in a social situation where you just knew someone was messing with you, but you didn’t know what to do about it?

Have you ever had that feeling that someone was playing games with you, but you couldn’t figure out how they were doing it, or what psychology they were manipulating?

Have you ever wondered how to get past the games, and get to a REAL connection with another person? That influential kind of connection that really gets a person to trust you and LIKE you?

I created this program to open up the complex mechanics of what happens in social situations, and give guys a skeleton key to unlock all the puzzles and games.

I go into EXTENSIVE explanation of the personality types you’ll meet, and what their motivation is. (Even your own!) I go into detail about how to read a social situation of any kind, understand what’s going on, and be able to not get gamed.

You ever had this happen: You’re hanging out with your friends and someone makes a sly comment about you, and they all chuckle. You go along with it because you don’t want to look like you’re “uptight” or “un-cool.” But somewhere deep inside, you know you were just put-down…

Do you know how to handle it?

Well, it took me years to figure these out on my own, and that was only because I was lucky enough to find some people that I could study and understand to get these secrets.

I was never the guy that was slick with people, or who could think of the right thing to say at the right time. And I HATED that. I always felt like an idiot when people messed with me, and all I could do was go along because I didn’t want to be rejected by my peers and friends.

I decided it was time to update this for our current social situation and explain all the games, all the manipulations, and then give solid advice on how you can get past them so you can get to the authentic CONNECTION that we all crave.

This program will put you into the elite status of men who know how to HANDLE PEOPLE. And that’s a powerful skill to have, and it never gets old.

Donovan: Carlos Xuma’s Power Social Skills program: This is one of those programs that comes along and you say, why didn’t someone release something on this earlier? It answers and reveals so much about social interactions. Check it out before it’s release on Wednesday.