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Soul PUA Infield Day Game Video

Donovan — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:50:26 +0000

Soul, of Love Systems, has this footage of him approaching women and some background on himself as a day game coach. I found his day game approach, easy going, casual and low pressure, this tends to suit many guys when there aren’t many other guys distracting the girl you’re after. Turn it up a little for those women that tend to be ADHD. =)

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AFC Adam Lyons Interview

Donovan — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:22:52 +0000

DONOVAN: What made you decide to become a dating coach?

AFC Adam: Honestly I didn’t plan it. I always just wanted to learn how to improve myself. I met a guy in the UK who was willing to teach me in return for me helping him drum up some PR for his business. Once the articles started coming in he wasn’t too keen on the publicity. So he asked me if I wouldn’t mind being the face of the company. I agreed and began doing demos for the papers and TV shows. Sure enough I ended up closing on camera time and time again. The more I did it the more people wanted to learn from me. I really didn’t want to be a teacher at the time so I tried to deter students from working with me. I added the AFC at the start of my name in the hope that they would all shy away from learning form me, hoping they would think I was a beginner. This worked for as time, perhaps 4- 6 months. But once I was on the Rules of Seduction in the UK Things really just went crazy.

DONOVAN: When did people first start to know you outside of the UK?

AFC Adam: It was the PUA Summit in 2007. I really wasn’t going to go, I was a last minute speaker and was convinced to go along by my friends Tung and Crazy Serb from Canada. Both of them are great guys who just kept pushing me to go, so in the end I went along. I wasn’t really expecting anything to come from it, but once I was there I realised that a lot of the people there weren’t actually getting as many results as the guys in the UK Lairs, so my talk went down really well. Then out of nowhere Thundercat put me on his top 10 list and things escalated from there.

DONOVAN: The next question, can you tell us your favorite success story from one of your clients?

AFC Adam: Actually it was only a few weeks ago. We were running a special 1 week long bootcamp. Called Project Spring break, yes original I know. hahah. Actually It’s something me and Amanda have wanted to do for a long time. To give people not only a chance to get good at game but to also experience spring break in all it’s craziness. So many people who join the community don’t get a decent spring break in their college years so this was a chance for them to re -experience it in a BIG WAY. This one student that come along was completely inexperienced, had never approached before in his life and had massive AA. He manged to pull off two lays during the course and on both occasions convinced the girl to let him back to her room to close. Even now thinking about it makes me smile. The guy just pulled out all the stops and smashed it from zero to hero in 1 week!

DONOVAN: That’s awesome. What do you think is the main reason people take so long to get good?

AFC Adam: Honestly I believe it’s because they spend too much time on forums, reading and downloading content. Whereas if they actually got out there in field and actually SPOKE to girls they would find their results sky rocket. I calculated the other day I must have done 3000 sets in my first 3 months of training at the game before I was getting consistent results. Most people do this many sets over 3 years which explains why it takes so long to improve.

DONOVAN: Yeah. I think a lot of guys do find many excuses to avoid going out there in person and actually approach, what do you think is the best advice to someone who suffers from the fear of the approach to actually get them out there doing sets?

AFC Adam: Honestly I could sit here and provide a list of hypnosis and confidence cd’s but in reality the only way you’re going to get over the fear of approaching is to get out there and do it. There is an old psychological technique to help get over fear known as systematic desensitization. In summary this works by slowly exposing yourself to the situation in question. With regards to seduction this is easily done by starting out talking to girls you aren’t attracted to and purposely only staying in set for 10 seconds or so. Once you can do this without any anxiety it’s time to push further, either in terms of quality or length of time. Slowly but surely if you keep pushing you will find yourself getting to the point where you can talk to any girls no matter how beautiful they are.

DONOVAN: That’s some solid advice. In your experience, what’s the best place and/or location to try and pick up a girl?

AFC Adam: Hmm Honestly one of my favourite places is outside a modelling office. Back when I was gaming 24/7 I would either find the location of a modelling agency or a model audition and then simply place myself in a nearby coffee shop waiting for the girls to arrive.

DONOVAN: One of the things you’re really well known for is your Entourage game and the ability to create and work your social circle to consist almost entirely of beautiful women. Could you tell us a bit about how this works?

AFC Adam: Man this is one of my favourite topics. I remember when I first got into the whole seduction scene and reading “the game” about how project hollywood got the whole deal wrong. The idea of living in a house full of guys just didn’t interest me. I was much more interested in the whole hugh hefner lifestyle. So I decided to plan out a way I could duplicate the same lifestyle. I began making friends with girls in the London Nightclub circuit and instead of trying to sleep with them I just befriended them. Instead of going out gaming with guys I would get these girls to help me out. The social proof and pre-selection they gave me was off the chart. I would actually get opened by girls. After a while I ended up living a lifestyle where everywhere I went girls would come with me, and they were even competing to sleep with me, it was crazy.

Most people in the community feel they should sleep with every girl that they meet. But by trying to sleep with them all each situation becomes either a lay or a fail. IF it’s a fail they lose the girl from their life, and if it’s a lay they don’t tend to merge social circles. None of this is particularly condusive to building a social life especially not one filled with girls. Without having girls in your social circle you’ll never truly realise how powerful social proof can be or how easy it truly can be. It just doesn’t get easier than having the girls do all the work for you.

DONOVAN: Ok. Then to sum up, You’re traveling the states at the moment doing bootcamps, how is the tour going?

Yeah we’re currently traveling the states and it’s hectic. We’ve been doing bootcamps almost every single weekend and the results are amazing. We’ve had the chance to see some amazing places as well as meeting a lot of great people along the way. We’ve been teaching a lot of the newer material from social circle building and entourage game right through to day game and of course it’s all without routines so the guys never get caught out as being clones from the Pick Up Artist TV show which is something we’ve heard a lot of people are struggling with at the moment. We’re currently running at an almost 100% success rate for students in terms of getting number closes at least for a full 10 month streak and we’re pushing to keep that going!

DONOVAN: Well thanks so much for coming in to chat with me

AFC Adam: No probs man thank you very much for having me!

DONOVAN: Check out Adam’s US Tour dates at the bootcamp page.

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DVD Clips From Paul Janka’s Seminar!

Donovan — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:52:01 +0000

Paul Janka just forwarded me a link to his page with clips taken from his upcoming DVD called Beyond The Digits.

For those who don’t know Paul Janka, here he is on Dr Phil:

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Check em out and let other guys know what you think of Paul Janka’s:

1. Teaching style
2. Techniques he spoke about in the sample clip
3. Whether you’ve tried other techniques of Paul Janka’s and what they’ve helped you with.

I know many of you guys have bought his book and have a great deal of success (or not) using his techniques in certain areas of your dating life. Share with other guys in the form of a comment below, so they have a better idea of what Paul teaches.

Love to hear em.

Check out clips from Beyond The Digits.

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Thundercat Interview About “Looks Don’t Matter” (yeah right!)

Donovan — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:08:31 +0000

Donovan: G’day Thundercat, how are you?

Thundercat: Good, good – busy. Not only is my new course coming out this week, things are exploding on the blog. Between Tyler stepping down from Real Social Dynamics and Ross Jeffries being a devil worshiper, I don’t know what to focus on!

Donovan: Ha ha… sounds like Christmas came early for TC.

Thundercat: Nah. These guys aren’t going anywhere, they’ll be around forever. I just want to focus on more positive things.

Donovan: Like your upcoming course?

Thundercat: Helping guys out, yeah. That’s fun for me.

Donovan: So let me ask you this – over the pat few months, you’ve been releasing these videos showing you in potentially embarrassing situations. What’s the point of them?

Thundercat: Well, all my life, I’ve always been really insecure about my looks. Being overweight, bald, etc. doesn’t really help your self esteem. But I found a way to overcome that and get the type of success I always wanted.

So even though I now know that looks aren’t as important as I once believed them to be, there are still a LOT of guys out there who think because they don’t look like a male model, they can’t get the type of women they want.

The videos were all meant to show guys that if a fat, bald, ugly shlub like me can get hot chicks, then anyone can.

Donovan: But do you really believe looks don’t matter?

Thundercat: I believe appearance matters. The better you can make yourself look, the better off you are. But if you’re not tall, not skinny, not muscular, with a big nose or big ears and no hair on your head – what can you do about that?

Nothing. You’re stuck with the way you look.

So you have two options – either play the victim and dispair over the fact that you’re not genetically what you want to be, or work with what you got and get what you want anyway.

I used to play the victim. Even when I was going out 5 nights a week to the clubs, in the back of my mind, I didn’t believe I could succeed because I didn’t think I had the looks.

It wasn’t until I was able to overcome that limiting belief that I was able to have the kind of success I really wanted with women.

So yeah, I’ve come to believe physical looks don’t matter. But you still have to look as good as you can. Shower, groom, smell nice, dress nice, etc.

Donovan: I know what you mean. It seems like its easy to resent good looking guys, when in reality, they don’t have that many advantages over other guys.

Thundercat: To be honest with you, I used to really resent good looking guys. They never realize how their looks help them with women, and I resented the fact that it came easy for them.

But the fact is, good looking guys have just as much trouble with women as average guys do, because lots of them never bother to develop an interesting personality or sense of humor. And once a girl gets past your looks, what then? She’ll get bored and move on if there’s not more to you.

We’ve all been in situations where we’ve grown attracted to someone we weren’t attracted to at first. That’s the advantage of having a great personality – it gives us a chance to win the girl over to us!

Sure, if we’re not the girl’s physical type, we can’t just go up and get a 10 minute lay. But luckily, girls are wired a little different from guys, and how you can make a girl feel emotionally will usually outweigh her initial physical attraction.

Take me for instance… I have a LOT of women tell me I’m attractive. Just to give you an idea, I’m close to 300 pounds. I shave my head. I think I’m hideous. But these girls think I’m attractive! Why is that?

Its because when they’re around me, I make them feel good! They get turned on because I know what buttons to hit and how to hit them.

I use my personality to subtly create intense feelings of connection, fun, and intrigue.

Its counter-intuitive, I know. But it works (and thank god it does!).

Donovan: So what inspired you to make this Pure Personality course?

Thundercat: Well, it really came down to my friends. All my friends are better looking guys than me. Some are taller, all are thinner, and most have been blessed with a wonderful head of hair, lol.

So when we’d go out to the clubs together, they of course would get all the female attention, and I’d have to really fight and claw to get anywhere with a girl when they were around.

Tather than try to compete with my friends, I had to find a different tactic. One where I wasn’t trying to “out game” them or be at the mercy of their physical attractiveness.

So I came up with the Personality stuff.

By using my Personality, I was able to sit back, have a good time, help my friends meet girls, and relax. And when I did that, I started to get more attention than my better looking friends!

Focusing on personality really helped me level the playing field, because even though my friends were better looking, I was where the party was at, so the girls came to me.

That’s where the genisis of the course came from. I thought “Hey, if it can work for a shlub like me, it can work for others too!”

Looks, age, weight, skin color – whatever you think holds you back with women, if you go the right personality, you can overcome it.

Donovan: But everyone has a personality. How does Pure Personality help guys bring out their personality instead of just cloning yours?

Thundercat: Because I go into the process of getting people addicted to who YOU ARE. Not who I am. I don’t share any pre-canned routines in the course, rather, I give step by step instructions on how to tailor the techniques to your situation.

I give you the tools for how to be more funny, how to be more engaging, how to work a room, how to tell a good story, how to keep a conversation going, and many other things.

And then, I show you how to use elements of your personality and your beliefs, interests, and experiences, and apply them to those tools.

So what you get is a good approximation of “natural” game, witht he structure routines give you.

The best example of this is my Conversational Ninjitsu tactic.

This is a tactic you can use to keep any conversation going strong for as long as you want it. It is a 6 step system, but the outcome mimics a real conversation because you actually have to pay attention to what’s being said by the girl.

Everyone I share it with is really amazed.

So you won’t see a bunch of “Thundercat” clones running around out there with this course (heaven forbid). You’ll see guys being able to tailor it to suit their own needs, so no one is “fronting.”

And it works great with every other school of seduction out there, because its all based on what you project to the world about who you already are, rather than what you say or do.

Donovan: You mentioned that conversation skills are a big part of your course. What makes Pure Personality different than say, other “conversation” products out there?

Thundercat: Well, the first is that its not all about conversation. It’s about how to be funny, how to properly tease a girl (so many guys do that wrong!), how to build your reputation and meet lots of people quickly and easily.

Conversation is a part of it, but it isn’t the whole thing. Conversation is a tool you use to show people your personality and get them addicted to it.

It’s also much more naturalistic than other conversation methods out there. It’s not robotic, its fluid. Its like “Jeet Kun Do” for talking. You change and adapt based on what you say and what they other person says, just like a real conversation, but you have guideposts to help you out.

You know when to toss in a joke, how to make it funny, when to tell a story, when to listen, when to excuse yourself, etc.

The product is more about how to be social than anything else. Its great for guys who are shy or introverted.

Donovan: So you’re saying it goes deeper than just conversation skills?

Thundercat: Oh yeah. it goes to the core of who you are. It’s about being an attractive guy, and seeing who picks up on that.

Think of the word “attractive” for a minute. To “attract” something is to pull something towards you based on qualities that thing seeks out.

When you’re attracting women, women need to come to YOU, and the only way that will happen is if they see something they like and desire.

They might not desire a 300 lbs. bald guy, but they sure desire the feeling they get when they laugh, and have a good time, and feel protected and safe and happy. That’s what this course is all about.

Donovan: Okay, I like what I hear. So how much is the package, and if I ordered it, what do I get?

Thundercat: Well, the course is BIG, so its going to cost a little money, but its nowhere near as expensive as some of the other courses people have been putting out.

Basically, you get a series of video tutorials, audio interviews, training assignments, and manuals – all covering specific aspects of the system.

And keep in mind, this IS a system. Its not just a bunch of attributes you learn willie-nilly. Its a process you go through, so its very structured.

I’ll also be giving away a lot of bonsues. So people get access to the course as soon as they pay, but after three months, I’ll also ship them a pysical version of the course so they can watch it at their leisure away from the computer.

Not only that, I’ll also have a special coaching club available to the first 50 people who sign up, and special “practice” sessions for the first 100 people to get the course.

Basically, I’ll get one of the super-hot girls I know to get on the phone with me and the students, and have the students practice on them during the call, then the girl and I will critique how the student did and give them feedback on how to improve.

I’m excited about that because its something new and different, and its a great way for guys to practice in a safe environment.

So for all that, I’m charging three payments of $197. You can also pay one payment of $497 and get a discount for paying all at once.

Donovan: How does pure personality differ from Renegade Rapport? They seem to overlap on many topics, or have I got that wrong?

Thundercat: They don’t so much overlap as they compliment each other.

See – a lot of my game is based on internal state, beliefs, confidence, and interpersonal interaction. Renegade Rapport is about how to build deep connections rapidly – sometimes before even talking to a girl.

Pure Personality is about getting as many girls as you can to pay interest to you so you can gain those connections.

So if Renegade Rapport is about how to get a girl to fall in love with you, then Pure Personality is about how to get a girl interested in you – so the “falling in love” part becomes easier.

But more than that, Pure Personality is about teaching guys to have fun! Its about showing them how to get out of their head, how to stop being nervous, how to stop being introverted, and have fun around really attractive girls – something so many guys have trouble with.

Pure Personality is also about helping guys get away from the bad beliefs they have about themselves. Its about giving them the tools they need to feel attractive, instead of trying to “fake” it.

Donovan: So if I got access to Pure Personality tomorrow, how would I put it into practice?

Thundercat: Well, basically you’d go through the videos, then the audios, then text, and finally the assignments. The assignments are where I outline the best way to acclimate yourself to the techniques.

The course is very streamlined. You’re not going to find a lot of fluff in there.

I also have some input from some very incredible guys in the community. Barry Kirkey is in the course, as is Adam Lyons and Brad P. All are amazing guys and they share some incredible stuff.

Donovan: So when is the course coming out and how can people get it?

Thundercat: Well, I know a lot of people out there are tired of “marketing” stuff, but I really think this type of thing can really help guys out.

You don’t have to buy anything to see what the course is about. Just go to:
http://www.looks-dont-matter.com
I have 8 free videos up there you can go through and see how this course will work.

The course is being released on August 30th, which is labor day weekend. The order page will go live at 9:00 am Pacific, 12:00 pm Eastern time at the link above.

(So watch those videos while you have a chance! They won’t be up past Friday!)

So if there are guys out there who think they might like to feel better about themselves, feel more attractive, and get more women, they’ll definitely want to give it a shot.

And if not, hey, no worries. I’m having fun just making the videos and doing the interviews like this one! lol.

Donovan: Cool man. Well, thanks for taking the time to talk with me about it.

Thundercat: No problem bro. Keep up the great work on your blog!

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What’s Mehow’s New Group Attraction Product?

Donovan — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:38:02 +0000

Mehow Lovers: Attention!

Check out Mehow’s video, and let me know what your thoughts are about his upcoming product.

What exactly is “group attraction” (potential orgy?)?

How will the Group Attraction product fulfill Mehow’s claims of: Exposing THE Precise ‘DNA’ Blueprint to Automatically Seduce Flocks of Women… Guaranteed!”?

P.S. What is with all these PUAs having beards that are out of control? Groom. Please.

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Sean Stephenson Backstage Photo at Jimmy Kimmel

Donovan — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:28:39 +0000

I had lunch with Sean Stephenson Saturday morning in Chicago. He’s quite a cool guy. Very inspirational and I’ll be doing an interview with him very soon. Here is a photo of him backstage. If you haven’t seen the video, Sean was featured on Jimmy Kimmel last Thursday. He also has released a magazine called Inner Game Magazine.

Top row from left to right: David DeAngelo, John Costello Sr.,
Liz Peters (IGM Editor), Shawn Royster, Gregg Stephenson (My Dad).

Center row: Zan Perrion (IGM Cover Story), John Costello Jr.,
Jimmy Kimmel, Craig

Bottom row: Bryn Freedman (E.P. of my TV show),
Alex Allman (IGM Cover Story), Andrea Albright,
Tiamo (World Famous Musician)

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Watch Sean Stephenson on Jimmy Kimmel

Donovan — Mon, 26 May 2008 00:50:55 +0000

Sean Stephenson was featured on David Deangelo’s Cocky Comedy. He actually took up a whole DVD he was that brilliant. If anyone has seen those DVD they know what I’m talking about. I saw them about 2 years ago, and was blown away by Sean. I was flicking through my TiVo recordings and saw he was on Jimmy Kimmel… enjoy!

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Too Many Gurus Spoil The Game

Donovan — Sun, 18 May 2008 18:38:31 +0000

The new pickup artist forum has been getting a lot of interaction, if you haven’t yet signed up, sign up here.

Some forum guys and I got into a discussion about our stories and where we came from.

4nim4te touched on an important concept:

At this point I’ve been reading a lot as well, without practicing, but lately I’m approaching more and also getting approached by girls. Anyway, field practice is gonna be the way, I think I’m gonna get my mail inbox overflow without reading

I responded with the following:

And personally… running this blog about 2 years ago, my game REALLY hurt. You’d think with getting all the information from the community would be the best thing for game? Wrong.

I knew SO MUCH THEORY that I didn’t have time to practice everything I learned, so it just became a mindscrew. When approaching a girl I would become paralyzed because I had SO MANY TECHNIQUES in my head. Learn from my experience with it. Focus on two gurus per SKILLSET.

For example: READ THE REST ON THE FORUM

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Ross Jeffries Vs Sean Messenger

Donovan — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:06:31 +0000

It looks as though Ross Jeffries is again using his guerrilla “controversy” tactics to get more publicity in a world that now has a 0% carefactor for him. He’s the man that time forgot. This time instead of against David Wygant it’s against Sean Messenger. While Sean gets old at times with his free love approach to things, I find this a good piece of back and forth that reveals even more about Ross:

Here’s what went down on Sean’s blog:

Dude…Sean…..do you even have a triple digit IQ? Listen asshole, you get women on your looks only. You don’t belong teaching… you belong on a beer truck.

Then Sean…

Good to hear from you, my friend. For those who don’t know, RJ is the founder of the pickup community, and a great inspiration to me. I understand completely your ferocity at defending the teaching from total frauds and rip-off artists.

I’m just on the Path like everyone else and sharing what I know, and I totally agree with you that looks matter. What you want in a woman you should cultivate in yourself. If you want her to take care of her body, to smile, to look her best, and to project a happy, friendly vibe, then it starts with you.

It doesn’t matter what you look like. There are literally millions of guys better looking than me (look at that cheesy mustache, for god’s sake!). But there’s a difference between being good-looking and looking good.

Do your best to present your best self. Just as you wouldn’t go to an important job interview looking like shit, nor should you content yourself with looking your worst if you want to draw attractive women into your life.

Anyone can go to the gym and get in shape. Anyone can get a good haircut (just see my man Fabian here in Miami Beach… best cut EVER, and all for $18!). Anyone can find clothes that flatter them.

Then you combine that appearance with a genuine Love for people, with enthusiasm, and with interest, and you will attract quality women into your life.

Ross retorts:

Wow. What profound advice. Look your best. Smile. Be well groomed.

And you think people should PAY to hear this?

Where is the originality? Where is the impact? Where is the power?

But you missed my point, Sean, so I’ll try to make it again:

Since you are good looking and have ALWAYS done well with women, you can’t possibly understand the problems, blocks and barriers of guys who are not in your situation.

This is a matter of what you understand, not your intent.

Look here:

This guy got laid with 16 women at the time of recording this video, and one of them was a lesbian. He was a virgin when he first got my stuff and his social life consisted of taking a walk, once a day, outside of his house.

Can you really help guys like THIS? There are more of them than you can possibly hope to count.

Your haters here can attack me until they are blue in the face, but let’s see anyone match these results.

You don’t transform guys like the one in this video with trite advice to dress better or go to the gym. And you, having always been a natural, can’t possibly understand the world of a guy like this.

And so you can’t help him, or millions more like him.

But you can and do distract him and guys like him with advice that may work for someone with YOUR experience, but could NEVER work for him(or them).

That is my real issue with you, Wygant, Zan Perrion, etc.

You guys are like the 6 foot 10, 350 lb guy who tells the little guys how to win a fight in a bar.

“Fuck that fancy shit. Just swing on them and hit them once!”

You mean well. I get that. But you don’t get what it truly takes to help guys who are truly trapped. And so you are getting the way of the help they truly need.

And to the haters: when YOU can get results with your teaching like the guy in this video got from mine, then you can open up your mouths.

Finishing with Sean…

Thank you for coming on here. I got nothing but Love and Respect for you, not only as the Founding Father of this whole community, but also for speaking your mind and damn the consequences. If only more men had the courage of their convictions.

I agree with you, again, that starting out with some genetic advantages makes it tougher for some students to relate. But I stand by my work and my experience. I NEVER did well with women until I learned how to relax. I was the girl-crazy kid who would pen painful poems and love notes to cheerleaders, and never work up the nerve just to ask a girl out.

I’ve been in tremendous slumps and gone through a lot of periods where I thought “damnit, if I was better-looking this would be easy. Life is so unfair.”

I think the point I want to make is wherever you start, YOU decide where to go from there. Listen, if you are 4′9″ and have one eye in the middle of your forehead and hair covering your entire body, you will not get the same immediate response from women that Brad Pitt does.

But that doesn’t mean you can’t do the best with what you have by improving not only your appearance, but your posture, your breathing, your smile, your ability to make others smile, your emotional openness and depth, and your capacity for Love without conditions or expectations.

That’s what I will keep exploring and writing about until my dying day. We all have untapped potential to Give Love, and it’s our sacred responsibility to do that to our best until we draw our last breath.

I’m going on the record again and saying that I don’t think Ross Jeffries is the “Father” of the Seduction Community. Did he play a role? Sure. But if anyone has had the most influence on what the Seduction Community stands for now it would be a combination of Mystery, David Deangelo and Neil Strauss, not some 80’s hypnosis teacher who flames people that try and make a difference in guys lives. Maybe I’m just slightly creeped out by him not having upper teeth. Ross must be struggling with business if he’s making all this controversy. Is he stressed about things?

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Real Social Dynamics Ban Reviewer From Forum

Donovan — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:33:06 +0000

Gigi, an active reader and commenter here and owner of PUAratings recently posted a review of The Blueprint Decoded at the Real Social Dynamics forum and received this message:

Gigi went on to explain:

Get banned for not adoring RSD’s ‘Blueprint Decoded’

Try to offer a slightly un-excited opinion about RSD’s new ‘Blueprint Decoded’ product in their forum, and watch your account there immediately vaporize with a message: ‘Banned for being a spammer’.

…

I actually think that the Blueprint is a good product. What got me banned there was saying that despite it offering very sound concepts, most of them are old wisdom found in many general self help books and older ‘get girls’ ebooks, sold for a fraction of the price.

It is my belief that those who don’t have their money grow on trees should be aware of this information. RSD’s forum moderators seem to think otherwise.

Crazy. I’ve noticed other forum’s like the one run by The Mystery Method does contain some untouched negative reviews although most are positive. On another note: Seduction Chronicles now hosts unbiased reviews of top dating products as well. Check out the latest review put up last week of the Love Systems Routines Manual. A good read!

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Double Your Dating Craig On Bad Girls Club

Donovan — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:13:13 +0000

This is a funny video with Double Your Dating’s Craig in it which you guys might enjoy.

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The SeduceInSeconds Versus PUAWatchdog Controversy

Donovan — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:13:40 +0000

I first saw this impressive video:

Then it was “debunked” by a guy named PUAWatchdog:

Then SeduceInSeconds posted this video:

Here are my thoughts,

SeduceInSeconds has a weaker argument against PUAWatchdog mostly because he’s attacking PUAWatchdog’s character and methods rather than the facts. Just because there are multiple schools called Redham in Sydney doesn’t excuse the fact that she stated she attended school with him. When does someone ever say they went to school with someone if they didn’t? If you go to the University of California – Los Angeles campus, you wouldn’t say that you went to the same school as your friend who went to the University of California – Irvine or University of California – Riverside. That seemed odd to me.

After watching the above videos, what do you believe?

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Photos From Project Hollywood

Donovan — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:57:09 +0000

Tynan just posted a selection of old photos from the Project Hollywood days. You can see all your favorites like Style, Mystery, Herbal, Dreamweaver, The One, Tyler Durden, Stephen Nash, and others.

Check em out!

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Taking Your Game International

Donovan — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:01:38 +0000

This is a guest post by Roosh V, whose blog I’ve started to sponsor. Definitely check his writings out if you’re in the DC area or like women.

Roosh in Brazil

The assumption guys make about girls is that they all respond the same, that game is game and things should work regardless of where the girl is from. I made this mistake and exported my push-pull, cocky and funny, and indirect game to Argentina with poor results. Here are some things I learned…

1. Do your research. Before you board the plane, ask your wingmen if they’ve had experiences with girls from that country. And when you arrive, make friends with the local guys and ask them for their opinions on the girls. One of my best friends is Russian and I can tell you that Russian girls will appear cold and distant when you first approach them but you should push on anyway.

2. Adapt quickly. On a two week vacation, you simply don’t have the time to learn a new game, but you do have time to make easy adjustments that affect how the locals respond to you. For example in Peru, the more you look like a gringo (think Abercrombie & Fitch), the better you’ll do with the girls in the club, so leave the soccer jersey at home. In Argentina the kiss is a big deal, so you delay your kiss attempt longer than usual without getting frustrated when things are moving along slower than normal.

3. Approach in massive numbers. The big myth of traveling is that you will get more abroad than you do at home, but there are so many obstacles (no cell phone, no pad, no wingmen, language barrier, lack of venue knowledge, and so on), that the only way to make up for them is to approach a lot more than you normally do. With many girls closed off to having sex with a gringo who is only in town for a weekend, sometimes you need to keep going until you find a girl who doesn’t mind and speaks your language. It takes a lot more energy than you are used to.

4. Western girls are easiest. American, English, Irish, and Australian girls are the easiest in the world. There are some exception (Brazilian girls are not difficult), but keep in mind you may need to put in more time with a local. American girls are so easy that I missed them in in Argentina while approaching the most beautiful (and difficult) girls I’ve ever met in my life.

5. Take it easy on the alcohol. While at home you’re mostly on auto-pilot, at a bar you know with wingmen you trust, but when you’re abroad you need to be full of energy and more mindful about what you are doing. It’s far better to pound Red Bull than beer.

If you can get laid with pretty girls who barely speak your language then there aren’t many challenges you can’t face. The last tip I can give you is simply to be fun: when you can’t talk with words, all the girl is going by is your positive energy and vibe. Sometimes all you’ll need to do is be the life of the party.

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The Weirdness of Real Social Dynamics

Donovan — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:02:13 +0000

UPDATE 7/16/2008: Apparently, this post is a foreshadowing for the crap storm…. Watch reactions to a infield video by Real Social Dynamics instructor.

I swear I would never do this post, here it goes. Ever since joining the community, I’ve been waiting for the “Blueprint” to be finished writing by Tyler of Real Social Dynamics. That was back at the end of 2004. I still haven’t heard anything new about it, perhaps because I’ve given up.

You’ve probably all heard about the ethical business dealings of Real Social Dynamics, although I’m certainly a bit… doubtful about how true those are.

Didn’t finish the blueprint…

What Do They Have To Offer?

Certainly, Real Social Dynamics would’ve had to close up shop if it weren’t for the David Deangelo seminars and strong mention by Neil Strauss in The Game. They say even bad publicity is good publicity. They are mentioned on the Double Your Dating Advanced Series (both editions), Mastery Series, Approaching Women, Body Language and one other that I can’t remember currently. These products have been around for over 10+ years combined and give them the bulk of their business through referrals, probably not word of mouth.*

* Could be disputed by the amount of PPC campaigns under “Real Social Dynamics” and the numerous domains they own and run to capture most of the traffic.

~~Lack~~No Participation In The Seduction Community

Why don’t Real Social Dynamics participate openly in the community? They seem to distance themselves in a strange manner. I’ve never had ONE of my emails returned, and I did receive one from Jeffy (Jlaix) back about 2 years ago, although I think that was before he was even an instructor.

The straw that broke my back was when I saw on Tyler’s blog, that Jeffy had interviewed him about their new product “Blueprint Decoded”. That’s just kinda weird to me. Wouldn’t you get someone like Thundercat (not probably likely), Bobby Rio, Fast Seduction or myself to get the word out and ask unbiased questions?

I was at the Mystery Method Super Conference in 2006 and met a guy that had taken a boot camp specifically with Tyler, and said he felt this weird vibe of bitterness towards women coming from him. Now this is a common thing for many guys in the community but he felt it came more from a source of insecurity rather than desire to teach well. That’s just one guy.

I tried to get an interview with LoverBoy, but he had just started to work at RSD (about 2 years ago) and said they weren’t allowed to…

A senior instructor at Pickup101 was running a workshop in San Fran. They ran into another boot camp run by RSD. The RSD instructor came over and started chewing out the instructor of Pickup101 saying that he had no right to be there, they were there first, and so on. An hour went by and all the girls that were approached by the instructor and students of the RSD instructor were weirded out and started flirting with the Pickup101 students and instructor throughout the night. Guess who had a more enjoyable time?

Stephen Nash, who was PlayboyLA when he instructed at RSD, left them and moved back to NYC. Tyler still hates him to this day. Apparently, these guys teach character-based game but don’t deal with the baggage they cart around personally. Walk the walk is important in my mind. = Discredited by Sinn (see comments below)

Evolving With Their Teachings?

Has anyone noticed that Real Social Dynamics have evolved from their old routine-based teachings to character-based game? Is this a natural progression? Doctor Paul, the chief architect of character-based game, said that as soon as he released his MindOS, and a few other patent-pending seminars based on his personal scientific studies, Real Social Dynamics started leaning towards it and emphasizing most of Doctor Paul’s teachings at their seminars. He did go into further details about KEY TERMS and SPECIFICS which I don’t want to repeat here.

They seem to be releasing more material than ever… I believe, and I could be wrong, to distance themselves from boot camps towards informational products so they get less refunds and make more money.

Here’s A Real Social Dynamics Instructor – Alex

Oh smooth…

After all that, I pose the question…

Is RSD all that bad? What have you guys heard from friends/around the community? Would you take a boot camp from them, or would you prefer someone else? What other positive/negative experiences have you had with RSD? Do you enjoy their products? If so, what benefits have you seen specifically?

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The Magic Show’s Over! When Is Mystery Going To Evolve?

Donovan — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:14:59 +0000

It seems these days that Mystery has given up on helping guys and instead is just trying to pocket in on his VH1 The Pickup Artist show. There’s no doubt in my mind that Mystery has, next to Neil Strauss, contributed the most to the community in terms of techniques, tactics, and culture. But what has he been contributing lately?

From my skewed perspective, Mystery seems to be teaching the same old “do you floss” routines over and over. At least his ex-business partner, Savoy, has been evolving his own methodology with the release of Magic Bullets, that includes tonnes more tactics like phone game, texting, relationship management. From what Savoy told me, Eric (Mystery) didn’t even teach or contribute before the breakup for about 1.5 years. Most of the materials that Mystery Method uses today are from Sinn, Savoy, The Don, and a few other instructors.

My big beef with Mystery lately is that after the release of the Mind of Mystery system ($2500), we haven’t heard from him. I was delighted to see the VH1 show do well, and there might be a second season (good), but what did he teach the community from that show?

The community is evolving to the point now that Mystery’s teachings are completely outdated and being replaced with more congruent, natural products that empower men instead of replace their social masks with false identities and hope. Even peacocking, the way Mystery presents it, is debunked.

Mystery is sick of the seduction community. Mystery now uses it as his own personal piggy bank and wants withdrawals a few days after he’s used his last score on blow, food, and maintenance for his harem.

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Sean Messenger Leaves Pickup 101

Donovan — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:04:06 +0000

Senior Instructor, Sean Messenger, has left Pickup 101 and is off on his own now. He states the reason:

“It’s on good terms, but I needed to start my own business and do things differently.”

Sounds good. I’ll look forward to seeing what new material Sean comes up with on his own terms.

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Brent from Absolute Power Dating in Comedy Videos

Donovan — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:02:25 +0000

Brent, of Absolute Power Dating is in these two videos.

Here’s the description:

Join real-life dating coach Brent Smith as he educates Scott Parker (Greg Lobb, from the movie Life With Fiona, a comedy coming out later this year) about how to properly approach women.

Note: this is a spoof we did for fun on the cheap, of course, but Brent is the real deal! He was nice enough to play along with our low-budget goofiness here to help us promote the film.

Part 1:

Part 2:

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Interview with Herbal About His New eBook Make Her Chase You

Donovan — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 05:21:52 +0000

Tynan (Herbal), long time since our interview. What have you been up to since we spoke?

I’ve been up to a lot – I like to keep busy. I wrote a book, sold all of my stuff and moved into an RV, traveled a bit, started seeing someone new, started hosting a karaoke night, etc. I spend a lot of time just hanging out with friends, too, though.

I’ve been able to read a few chapters of your new ebook “Make Her Chase You”. I really dig the vibe of it. With so many other ebooks out there, what made you decide to finally write it?

A few reasons, really. My blog, www.betterthanyourboyfriend.com, has become reasonably popular, so I get people e-mailing me all the time asking for advice. At first I’d happily give it out, but as the site became more popular I just didn’t have the time to write everyone. I figured that I could take the time to really get everything down on paper and then people could read that instead.

The last thing I wanted to do was write the same book that’s already been written a million times, so I made mine really unique.

What can a guy learning pickup specifically learn from “Make Her Chase You” that he can’t learn elsewhere?

He’ll learn how to improve his personality and lifestyle in a way that’s irresistibly attractive to women.

Why is that an important trait for an attractive guy to have?

Here’s the thing – I’m all about lines, tactics, games, and things like that. They have their place, I wrote about them, and I use them myself. But what I FOCUS on is self improvement, personality development, and social skills. Why? Because these are durable qualities that will NEVER become out of date and will work in every situation from a group of girls in a club to the hottie next to you on an airplane.

I see a lot of guys get so immersed in tactics and lines that their lives start to revolve around pickup. This is extremely unattractive to women, so it becomes this vicious circle where these guys have to work really hard to overcome the fact that they have no life.

The other problem is that this more superficial approach makes it impossible to keep a girl. She’ll get bored of you. Have you ever noticed how many pickup artists can’t get girlfriends?

The easier way to go about things is to work on your life (which obviously pays dividends in a lot of areas), and make women chase after you, rather than the other way around. I have MORE success using this sort of method and never going out than I did back when I went out all the time.

What’s your take (now that you’ve advanced to a higher level) on learning from Mystery and other gurus?

I think that limiting yourself to one ‘guru’ is a huge mistake. Would you learn all of your classes from one teacher in college? Learn how to approach and open from RSD – those guys are the best at it. Learn how to DHV from Mystery – I was hanging out with him a few weeks ago and he has some GREAT new stuff. Learn how to tell stories and build your personality from me – it’s what I know inside and out. That’s how you get a world class pickup education.

I think that my book is the best place to start, but I encourage people all the time to learn from other guys. At the same time, make sure you’re spending enough time in the field. You can read everything we’ve ever written, but if you’re not practicing then it’s not going to be doing you any good.

If you’re interested, check out this specifics at Tynan’s website.

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The Secret Psychology of How We Fall In Love by Dr Paul Dobransky

Donovan — Fri, 04 May 2007 16:27:18 +0000

I sat down with Doctor Paul to talk about his upcoming book, “The Secret Psychology of How We Fall In Love”.

What’s this new book I’m hearing about? How does it compare to say “Deep Inner Game” and other products you’ve released?

Its called “The Secret Psychology of How We Fall In Love”. On the surface its a book for women, but secretly it’s all of the science I’ve learned, all of the techniques of the community, and all I’ve seen happen there but with a scientific mind. I got the idea to assist women to get a better dating life and relationships, but also to assist men. You’ve heard of the word feminist, I’m neither a feminist, or a masculinist but a humanist, I believe in getting people together and teaching them to make that happen is the best way.

What’s “The Secret Psychology of How We Fall In Love” all about?

Alot of guys have said, “When The Game comes out, women will be on to us, they’ll know our system and work us out!” It’s ridiculous, women want me, a quality man, and men want quality women. There doesn’t need to be any war between the sexes. It’s my latest and greatest technology and its worlds beyond MindOs (Dr Paul’s ebook release), and it teaches us what amounts to courtship. Something that we’ve lost. It’s not a detailed description on how to court, not just physical moves, but psychologically what exact steps are there.

Some people might call it Mystery Method for women, but what it amounts to is e = mc2 for psychology, everyone’s heard of it for physics, this is the very same thing in the psychology world, it’s very ground breaking. Think of it this way, it’s the periodic table of the elements for psychology.

What every dating guru has is a molecule, but i have the elements now. I can explain what works, and what doesn’t, thats because i have the elements and not just the molecules. There is a underlying pattern of what works with gurus and what does not. The community and the idea of helping men meet women is a very new idea, and you have little phases in the last century, but very small.

My field is very old, and i think all the best has synthesized and blended, both in the book and live seminars, and other materials are a true combination of all that came before me, and synthesis of bringing together various models of teaching men how to meet women to create one model out of all of them, to express them all. This does the same thing with any method of game. I want men to devise their own “method”. You don’t need to follow any particular guru to get success, and you can make your own and be wildly successful if you know the fundamentals behind the models, and why they work for some people.

“I want men to devise their own “method”.

Essentially some of the cases examples in the book are going to describe women who are trying to make there way towards a solid relationship while failing and it illustrates what problems women have, and what traits to stay away from, by having a man’s perspective on it. Alot of guys are going to read it, and say “oh! chapter 6 is my ex girlfirend”, or “chapter 9 is my ex-wife”. So it makes it very very clear why certain dating experiences cause failure, this book explains why, and it isn’t vague.

If you devise your own method or game, why would you need anyone to find out about “your game”, I don’t want guys to have to worry about it. Devise your own and it works perfectly for you.

“The Secret Psychology of How We Fall In Love” helps the guy work on his character and his sexual skills. One thing I found helped when I worked with David Deangelo is sexual attraction, so I’ve added sexual attraction to the model. What it will essentially do is help any guy with his situation with women. No matter if he’s single, married or in a relationship. This will help you relate to them better. Have better and richer relationships with them, sexual or beyond. Another really cool part is that its useful for is reading people. Like how much would you like to tell your future with any given individual women. Guy’s meet a really beautiful women, then she turns into a stalker. “The Secret Psychology of How We Fall In Love” will help you know with a few simple tests what kind of girl she’ll turn out to be, even if she’s a cheater. You can tell if she will turn into a cheater or if she’ll be focused for you within a few moments of meeting her.

It goes into way more detail about the personality archetypes and how to use them. How to approach people, just by knowing their archetype and how to relate better to them by having that knowledge. Visit KWML.com to find out what archetype you are.

You can learn to handle any time of formerly vague scenario. Why did I only get a day 1 with this woman? Why did she not call me back? etc etc… More specific than “I missed comfort”, she said this and you said that, but you missed out on and responded like this. “The Secret Psychology of How We Fall In Love” will re-frame your mind and belief system.

Put it this way…

Would you love to have a fighter jet in your backyard with a landing strip? Hell yes, I would love to as well. But what if you didn’t know how to fly it? That’s the way it is with us, we’ve got this powerful machine that if we could control it and learn how it worked, it would be the funniest thing to have! “The Secret Psychology of How We Fall In Love” is the next generation of dating advice, and you can tailor it for you.

Thanks Doctor Paul, we’ll hear more from you soon – no doubt!

Pre-order “The Secret Psychology of How We Fall In Love” (May 28th release date). Only $12.

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The Weirdness of Real Social Dynamics

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Evolving With Their Teachings?

Here’s A Real Social Dynamics Instructor – Alex

The Magic Show’s Over! When Is Mystery Going To Evolve?

Sean Messenger Leaves Pickup 101

Brent from Absolute Power Dating in Comedy Videos

Interview with Herbal About His New eBook Make Her Chase You

The Secret Psychology of How We Fall In Love by Dr Paul Dobransky

“I want men to devise their own “method”.