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		<title>Interview with Sinn</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Donovan: Hey Sinn, We’re hearing a lot of buzz about your Game Acceleration Doctrine, can you tell us a little bit about it? Sinn: Sure. The Game Acceleration Doctrine was something that was born out of frustration. This last year I’ve done a lot of big conferences and lair talks. Subsequently I’ve met a lot [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><strong>Donovan: </strong>Hey Sinn, We’re hearing a lot of buzz about your Game Acceleration Doctrine, can you tell us a little bit about it?</p>
<p><strong>Sinn: </strong>Sure. The Game Acceleration Doctrine was something that was born out of frustration. This last year I’ve done a lot of big conferences and lair talks. Subsequently I’ve met a lot of guys who have been in the community for a long time. The problem was, most of them haven’t made any improvement. We’re talking guys who have been in the community for 6 months to 2 years and still aren’t having any success with women whatsoever. That’s when it hit me that there’s never been a document out there that teaches guys how to learn game the right way.  So I sat down to write it. Then I decided that I wanted to give it away for free, to get it out there to as many guys as I possibly could. And Game Acceleration was born.</p>
<p><strong>Donovan: </strong>What are some problems people run into with learning pickup?</p>
<p><strong>Sinn: </strong>There are a couple of things. The biggest one is becoming a normal socially adjusted guy with a decent fashion sense and an absence of anxiety. What I do in The Game Acceleration Doctrine is break down why various systems work for some guys and don’t for others. The conclusion was that if you can become a normal socially adjusted guy, you can make any method work. That sounds fairly simple, but you’d be amazed at how many guys can spit routines and theory out, but not have a normal conversation or dress in a socially appropriate way. The Game Acceleration Doctrine is basically a primer on how to become normal. In it I break down everything from basic fashion rules, to dealing with social and sexual anxiety. I think the most important thing I provide in the doctrine is a system for identifying and working on your sticking points step by step. This is invaluable as most guys either don’t understand how to figure out what their sticking points are or how to work on them consistently. A major problem I saw over and over with these guys across the country was that they were practicing the wrong way. They weren’t specifically looking for situations to work on their weak areas, instead they were going out and doing the EXACT same things every time and wondering why they weren’t getting any different results. That’s the thing about learning game, it’ not enough to work hard, you’ve got to work smart as well.</p>
<p><strong>Donovan:</strong>  What do you mean by working smart?</p>
<p><strong>Sinn:</strong> I mean that guys need to have a specific game plan for improving their skills with women. In fact I’d even go so far as to say they need three different game plans. One for developing a skill set, one for developing an attractive lifestyle and one for working on your inner psychology. The most important skill in getting better at any of this stuff, is the ability to look at yourself HONESTLY and decide what parts of you need to change in order to get what you want from your dating life. Once you’ve figured out what you want, you need to backwards engineer how you’re going to get it. A lot of guys get into the community looking for a magic pill, or something to “fix them”. However the ugly truth is that there is a lot of hard work that goes into getting good at this. That’s the bad news. The good news, is that there is no rush to become amazing at this. Instead you want to take your time and build a rock solid foundation of fundamental social skills. This goes for everything from fashion and grooming, to body language, eye contact, and basic conversational skills.  I can’t tell you how many guys I’ve met over the last year who couldn’t have a 30 second conversation with a woman, but wanted to know about how to get Same Night Lays, or threesomes. You have to build a solid foundation first, or none of the fancy tactics and techniques are ever going to work for you. The problem happens when guys overestimate where they are based on having a lot of knowledge, but not a lot of results. At the end of the day results are the only thing that matter when it comes to evaluating your progress.</p>
<p><strong>Donovan: </strong>What can guys do right now to get back on the right track?</p>
<p><strong>Sinn: </strong>The first thing guys can do is figure out what their pattern is. What I mean by that is they need to establish what is usually happening when they are talking to women. Do they see a girl they want to talk to and come up with excuses? Do they approach but leave too quickly? Do they fail to show interest? Do they fail to touch the woman and physically escalate the interaction? This is where asking yourself a few simple questions can shed a lot of light on the situation. The first thing I always have my coaching clients do is describe a “typical” night out. Meaning how many approaches do they do, what are they opening with, what do they do after the opener, where does the interaction usually end, etc…  By establishing what’s happening now, we get a better sense of what variables we need to play around with to change the results.  Then from there you’ll start to see sticking point clusters. These will be a variety of related sticking points. The interesting thing about sticking points is that they usually represent both an inner and outer game problem. They are generally symptoms of larger problems in your life. For example a guy who cannot stand up to a woman’s congruence tests, probably has similar problems standing up to his boss at work. So once you establish where the SP clusters are you have to come up with a couple different possible solutions then test them. Game is much closer to a science than an art, so it’s important to keep an experimental frame. I go into much greater detail on all of this in The Game Acceleration Doctrine.</p>
<p><strong>Donovan:</strong> Where can guys get The Game Acceleration Doctrine?</p>
<p><strong>Sinn: </strong>If you go to my website at www.Sinnsofattraction.com you can sign up for The Game Acceleration Doctrine. In addition to that I polled over 100 students I’ve had in the last year on what their major sticking points were. There ended up being about 5 of them and if you sign up for The Game Acceleration Doctrine you’ll get access to audio and video lessons on things from learning how to not run out of things to say, to escalating the interaction. In fact if you’re reading this before Oct 15th you can even sign up for a free tele-seminar where I’ll be breaking down all of The Game Acceleration Doctrine material in real time for free. There’s absolutely nothing we’re selling on this call and you can register by going to <a href="http://www.sinnsofattraction.com/teleseminar">www.sinnsofattraction.com/teleseminar</a>. I’m really disgusted by the quality of teaching in the community right now, so over the next year I’m making it my personal mission to try to establish a new standard of instruction. Game Acceleration is just the first step.</p>
<p><strong>Donovan:</strong> Thanks for this and getting all this great information out to the community!</p>
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		<title>The Importance of Baiting (Sinn Column)</title>
		<link>http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/04/26/the-importance-of-baiting-sinn-column/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sinn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Baiting is the art of enticing a woman to escalate the interaction, physically, verbally and sexually. We want to bait the girl to escalate as much as we possibly can. But there is a difference between baiting and playing hard to get. This is what most guys don’t understand. You have to continue to demonstrate [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/author/sinn/"><img border="0" src="http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/wp-content/uploads/sinn-pua.jpg" alt="Sinn" title="Sinns Column" align="left" /></a><strong> Baiting is the art of enticing a woman to escalate the interaction, physically, verbally and sexually.  </strong>We want to bait the girl to escalate as much as we possibly can. But there is a difference between baiting and playing hard to get. This is what most guys don’t understand. You have to continue to demonstrate interest even as you bait a girl to escalate the interaction. In fact you can use baiting as a way to get the girl to qualify herself and even as a way of touching you and moving in physically early on.</p>
<p>  The first way that we want to bait is by physically advancing and retreating. Around the Dallas crew we call this the Captain Jack special move. El Topo first noticed it and he did it in an exaggerated way while leaning back too much. This of course led to us making fun of him until he told CJ that he learned it from watching him. What you do is you lean in to whisper something in the girl’s ear preferably a teasing comment like “ You’re trouble” Then you rock back and cover your mouth as if what you said just really cracked you up and you’re laughing at her. If you do this right, it results in the girl laughing and touching you on the arm. Every time.  What you’re doing is by going into and out of her personal space and teasing her at the same time the attraction gets magnified and she feels the need to chase you. It’s the essence of a physical push pull routine, all of which can be considered baits.</p>
<p> You can verbally bait women in a variety of ways.  Open loops are the most well known of these tactics. Open loops are simply unfinished thoughts or stories. They work because they evoke curiosity. Our minds are designed to have closure once we invest our time in a story or thought. If we’re listening we want to know how it ends. I can remember coming back from London and watching the movie “ The Devil wears Prada”. Maybe you saw previews, Meryl Strep plays a Cruella Deville like character and a different intern shows she can be a beautiful person too… Or something like that. The plane landed about 15 minutes from the end of the movie ad for the next half an hour all I could wonder was what happened next. Did she end up with the guy, etc? Now luckily for my sanity the movie wasn’t on my On Demand when I checked later. But the point is I checked. Even though I HATED that movie I had to know what happened. This is the power of open loops.  Open loops are easy to use; you can simply use a phrasal transition like “ That reminds me,” or “it’s just like when” to seamlessly start a new story leaving the other one up in the air.</p>
<p> Another way we can verbally bait women is through the use of ambiguity. Strippers are the best at this In fact strippers in general, are amazing at baiting. They’ll ask really ambiguous questions like “ What are you up to tonight?” And then they can lead your answers by saying things like “ Are you ready to party?” A good image to keep in mind when thinking about baiting is the idea of a stripper pulling a guy in by his tie and then pushing her out with her heels.  We can be ambiguous and use phrases like “ What do you mean by that?” Anytime in comfort that you think something can be twisted to be sexual, ask what she means by that. This allows her to fill what Juggler calls the vacuum by sexually escalating. You can also bait by looking down at your crotch and waiting for her eyes to follow then asking, “ what are you looking at?” There are a million more examples but you guys get the basic idea.  Being ambiguous forces her to solidify the sexual nature of the interaction.</p>
<p> Lastly we want to bait women sexually.  This happens in the bedroom. Lots of guys forget that you can use push pull tactics in the bedroom. You can start to arouse her by kissing her neck and then pull away and say this is bad… What are you doing to me? Then go back to arousal and then pull back again. Think of it as if you really want to do this but you’re not sure she’ll respect you in the morning. Kind of like giving a girl LMR.  The better your arousal skills the better this works, so make sure that you know how to make girls feel good. This has been called fractionation and is taken to the extreme with El Topo’s Kung Fu Penis stuff. Which takes end game and compliance escalation to a crazy new level. I don’t want to teach his stuff but the guys who have learned it on our bootcamps have had some CRAZY results.  The idea is to use baiting and arousal to create huge amounts of sexual compliance. Baiting is a huge part of this because in KFP the girl actually asks or physically makes every physical escalation.</p>
<p> Baiting is one of the most crucial aspects for getting compliance and investment into the interaction. Which in my opinion are more important than attraction itself. The more you can get women to comply and invest the more they will escalate. In fact we reflect this in the new model of attraction El Topo and I have been teaching for a while now. Keep an eye out for our upcoming e-booklet on Attraction.</p>
<p>If you guys have any questions about any of this stuff don’t hesitate to email me, Sinnstravel@gmail.com</p>
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		<title>Being A Leader (Sinn Column)</title>
		<link>http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/04/21/being-a-leader-sinn-column/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sinn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I could teach someone just one skill to get better with women and social skills in general, it would be learning to lead. In any social interaction you have to know where you want to go and how you are going to get there. You must lead the initial interaction with a new women [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/author/sinn/"><img border="0" src="http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/wp-content/uploads/sinn-pua.jpg" alt="Sinn" title="Sinns Column" align="left" /></a><strong> If I could teach someone just one skill to get better with women and social skills in general, it would be learning to lead. In any social interaction you have to know where you want to go and how you are going to get there.</strong></p>
<p>  You must lead the initial interaction with a new women both physically and verbally. This starts from the first eye contact and approach through handling logistics and dealing with LMR. You always have to lead.</p>
<p> Before you can even lead the interaction with an individual women, you are going to have to lead the group’s attention for long enough to start a private conversation with the women you are interested in. In order to do this we want to demonstrate <strong>The Characteristics Of Social Leadership</strong>.</p>
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1.	True leaders demonstrate through both behavior and stories that you inspire loyalty from people. It is very important to convey that when you need others help,they help. No questions asked.</p>
<p>2.	 The ability to instantly gain people’s respect. It is vitally important that the group is at least ok with you being there. The more attention(Respect) you give the obstacles, the more likely they will be to let you stick around generally uninterrupted.</p>
<p>3.	The next characteristic is confidence. This mostly comes from believing in what you are doing. When you make a decision, suggest a move, make a joke or even touch a woman, you must look like you think it’s going to work. I do this by acting like it’s weird when the girls don’t like me. You have to put full faith into everything you do. The more you believe what you are doing is going to work even when it isn’t, the better you will convey confidence. Confidence is simply a belief in yourself and ability to accomplish anything.</p>
<p>4.	 A leader has an outcome in mind. He knows what he wants out of the interaction and takes steps towards them. You don’t want to be attached to the outcome but you need to have a plan for who you are interested in getting to know better, where you are going to move her to have a private conversation away from her friends, what you are going to suggest going on a date to do at a later time, and how to get her back to your place if the opportunity presents itself. This can also be called handling logistics.</p>
<p>5.	The ability to lead physically. You have to take the initiative in establishing a physical relationship. This means you need to touch her early and often. You also should get comfortable leading women around to different parts of the bar or club. You need to be unafraid to try to make a bigger move later on. Learn to look at touching like bringing up a map in a video game. You are learning where you are at the time.</p>
<p>6.	The last characteristic of leadership is being unreactive to negative social feedback. The only reason people react to things is because they think that they somehow help themselves gain something they want or they want to avoid something unpleasant happening.</p>
<p> Imagine a 6 year old girl telling you to leave her alone. You probably wouldn’t have a huge emotional reaction. However if the most beautiful women you ever saw told you to leave her alone, you’d be devastated because of the perceived loss her negative social behavior made you feel. True leaders believe in themselves enough that they don’t feel the need to acknowledge anything that doesn’t help them.</p>
<p>  Which brings us to the number one rule of pick up which is to ignore anything that doesn’t help you. This works on the theory of magnification. Meaning that while having a great comeback when a woman tests you makes you look smart simply ignoring it and changing the subject demonstrates the confidence and dominance of a true leader.</p>
<p>There you guys have my characteristics for leading in social situations.</p>
<p>Till next week,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/author/sinn">Sinn</a></p>
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		<title>Becoming A Natural (Sinn Column)</title>
		<link>http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/04/11/becoming-a-natural-sinn-column/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sinn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There seems to be a lot of debate raging about becoming a natural, I.E a man who gets women without having any formalized education into their pursuit. The first step to becoming a natural (or as I would like to suggest natural as you can&#8217;t change the fact that you had to learn this stuff) [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/author/sinn/"><img border="0" src="http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/wp-content/uploads/sinn-pua.jpg" alt="Sinn" title="Sinns Column" align="left" /></a>There seems to be a lot of debate raging about becoming a natural, I.E a man who gets women without having any formalized education into their pursuit.</p>
<p> The first step to becoming a natural (or as I would like to suggest natural as you can&#8217;t change the fact that you had to learn this stuff) is to define what a natural is in respect to meeting and attracting woman.</p>
<p>So what is a natural?</p>
<p>IMO a natural is someone who has always gotten women. They may or may not be off a cold approach, but a natural has always had women in his life. A natural never had a problem getting a girlfriend or keeping her. A natural may or may not be great at cold approach. Most naturals I&#8217;ve met don&#8217;t actually do cold approach. They approach the girls who are giving them eye contact or &#8221; approach invitations&#8221; if you&#8217;re a nerd. Most naturals have very good beliefs about women&#8217;s sex drive. They may be misogynistic, but they believe that women like sex. They don&#8217;t place too much importance on women and when they get flaked on you never notice because they don&#8217;t talk about it. When asked for advice they generally tell you to chill out or be cool.</p>
<p> Now that we know what a natural is, we have to define natural game.<br />
IMO natural game is about a couple of things:</p>
<p>1.	First understanding the way sex and relationships start. Well getting rid of the Internet and a celebrity that fucks his fans. Sex and relationships usually begin with a man meeting and then pursuing a woman until she relents. Relationships also usually start before sex does. Most people meet through work, or friends, or by happening to be in the same place at the same time with a common interest (think college class). It&#8217;s still very rare that a woman meets a man at a club and they start dating. Generally people who do this are regarded as club friends. Clubs are seen as the domain of the hook up not the relationship.</p>
<p>So what are the elements we can agree upon about how sex and relationships start?</p>
<p>1. Guy meets girl (Or guy if you&#8217;re into that sorta thing Cough*Masters*Cough)</p>
<p>2. Girl and guy become attracted to each other</p>
<p>3. Guy generally wants to get to sex as fast as possible</p>
<p>4. Couples have sex based on how long it takes the girl to get comfortable with having sex.</p>
<p>5. Based on how long it has been and what kind of frame has already been established couple begins a relationship, continues the relationship, or ends contact.</p>
<p>So you have to first be aware of what steps need to be taken in order to get a woman into you&#8217;re bed and life&#8230;<br />
<strong>1.	Meeting her. </strong>There is a lot of work that goes into meeting women. This doesn&#8217;t mean scouraging the clubs necessarily, it could also mean taking a class, going to a Starbucks, meeting friends of friends, using the Internet whatever.</p>
<p><strong>2. Getting her attracted to you</strong></p>
<p><strong>3. Letting her get comfortable enough to have sex </strong></p>
<p><strong>4. Managing the relationship, so that neither of you feels bad about it.</strong></p>
<p>So now that we understand what we have to do, we can break it into tactics/techniques to accomplish these goals.</p>
<p>But naturals don&#8217;t have techniques they just have goals and intents. They see a girl they want, they meet her, and they try to have sex with her. Either they fail (most of the time) or they succeed.</p>
<p>In my mind, that makes the key to becoming natural around women, is learning what to do (The process of getting sex) then unconsciously using the skills you&#8217;ve developed through repetition of techniques.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why routines are great, not because you should talk about things that are ungeniune forever, but because they teach you how to convey personality. But where most routine guys go wrong, is that they then don&#8217;t develop a personality of their own. They stay conveying Mystery&#8217;s personality or mine or Future&#8217;s and they never seem to be able to get over the hump.</p>
<p> The routines are just vessels to convey that you are an alpha male character that she wants to be with. If you don&#8217;t ever develop the actual traits, while you will be able to get attraction and some results, you will forever be looking through a glass ceiling.</p>
<p>So it is of utmost importance that we identify who we are. And who we want to be.</p>
<p>What kind of guy are you?</p>
<p>Goth?<br />
Punk?<br />
Jock?<br />
Artistic?<br />
A corporate mover and shaker?</p>
<p>What kind of guy do you want to be outside of your life with women? What do you want your tombstone to read?</p>
<p>Look deeply at these questions, answer them and then add universally attractive layers to your personality.</p>
<p>Learn to be fun and funny, learn to lead groups of people to believe in you, learn to make people feel good about themselves, learn to be strong, learn to be decisive, learn to help people help themselves, learn to teach people, learn how to make people feel safe and protected, learn to show people new sides of the world and themselves, learn to make people think, learn to see the good in everything and everyone, learn to show women what&#8217;s awesome about your world etc.</p>
<p>I hope this isn&#8217;t sounding like a rant, but I really want everyone to understand that ultimately becoming a natural isn&#8217;t about changing who you are, it&#8217;s about coming to accept who you are and getting others to accept who you are. People always talk about passion and how important it is. What is passion? It&#8217;s someone embracing a quest or a journey that they believe in and embracing their dedication to it.</p>
<p>To become a natural you need a passion so that getting women isn&#8217;t something you have a chance to learn about.</p>
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		<title>10 Ways To Get Started With Game (Sinn Column)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sinn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey guys for my first article on the Seduction chronicles, I wanted to write to the brand new guys who may need a guiding hand in getting in the game. So without further ado here’s 10 things to do to get started in “The Game”. 1. Get a new haircut. This doesn’t have to be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/author/sinn/"><img border="0" src="http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/wp-content/uploads/sinn-pua.jpg" alt="Sinn" title="Sinns Column" align="left" /></a>Hey guys for my first article on the Seduction chronicles, I wanted to write to the brand new guys who may need a guiding hand in getting in the game. So without further ado here’s 10 things to do to get started in “The Game”.</p>
<p><strong>1.	Get a new haircut. </strong>This doesn’t have to be expensive, but the psychological ramifications of shedding your old look can’t be overstated. The first thing you should do is find a gay hairstylist. For the most part female hairstylists will cute your hair to make you look safe, whereas a gay guy will cut it to make you look sexy. Don’t try to control what he does, just let him go to town.  You’ll now also have a new way of looking at yourself when you see your new haircut in the mirror.</p>
<p><strong>2.	Learn to make eye contact.</strong> Head out to the mall on a Saturday morning and practice walking around, making eye contact and saying “hi” to strangers. It doesn’t matter if they’re guys, girls whatever. We’re working on learning to hold eye contact. The more comfortable you become with making eye contact, the better you’ll do.</p>
<p><strong>3.	Don’t read so much.</strong> It can be VERY tempting to try to learn everything you can about game as soon as you find out about the community. Don’t. All you need in the beginning is an opener. Make sure that you spend at least 4 times as much time out in the field as you do reading. That means for every hour of reading,  you’re in field for 4 hours.</p>
<p><strong>4.	Record your success and failures.</strong> You can do this with an audio recorder if that’s legal in your state Or you can simply write down what happened whne you come home. You should focus on a few things. First, how many women did you approach? You want to make sure that you write down a simple description of what you material you used, what her reaction was and how the interaction ended. This is a vital part of getting good, as you’ll start to notice patterns when you see the same thing written down over and over again.</p>
<p><strong>5.	Work on your body language. </strong>There is NO such thing as “ Super Alpha” body language. Instead you want to focus on looking comfortable and taking up enough space. Bad body language generally breaks down into on of two categories. Not taking up enough space, or taking up too much space. If you look relaxed and comfortable with no nervous twitches, you have good body language.</p>
<p><strong>6.	Set a schedule for going out.</strong> Make sure that you figure out what venues have the types of girls you like in them, and then plan some time to go there EVERY week. Look at going out to meet girls the same way you would look at going to the gym. You have a workout schedule where you’re going to go to the gym( Wherever you want to meet women) and do specific exercises to work on parts of your game.</p>
<p><strong>7.	Start asking for phone numbers every time you talk to a new woman. </strong>This is a great way to work on your phone game. Phone game is a separate skillset in and of itself, and as such needs to be practiced by itself. To do that you need to get a lot of phone numbers. Plus you’ll get practice at pushing your interactions farther, which is a good skill to develop for later.</p>
<p><strong>8.	Don’t beat yourself up. </strong>This is key. You have to recognize that there is no hurry to get good at this stuff and that you have the rest of your life to learn it. Be honest with yourself about where you need work, but make sure that you compare yourself to where you are coming from not where you eventually want to be. Or even worse where others are.</p>
<p><strong>9.	Get comfortable touching strangers.</strong> This is a huge piece of the game as well. I have found that the more educated a student is, the more trouble they have with touching. Touching is on of the things that you can practice all the time. Get used to becoming a “Touchy” guy. Touch the barista at Starbucks on the shoulder, touch your friends on the arm to emphasize points, etc… Make sure that you get used to touching everyone you speak to in a comfortable way.</p>
<p><strong>10.	Have fun!!!!!</strong> This is the MOST important thing when it comes to meeting women. If talking to you is not more fun than anything else she could be doing at the time, why does she want to talk to you? Fun trumps everything else. You can be de-selected by women, a loser of men and a destroyer of loved ones, but if women have fun with you, you’ll be successful.</p>
<p>Til next time,</p>
<p>Sinn</p>
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		<title>Sinn (Seduction Masters Interview)</title>
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Most of you have heard of Sinn, he was the lead instructor at The Mystery Method for about 3 or so years but has recently gone off on his own.  He offers a unique perspective and is also going to be doing a weekly column here on Fridays.</p>
<h2>How did you get into the community?</h2>
<p><img src='http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/wp-content/uploads/sinn-pua2.jpg' alt='sinn-pua2.jpg' align="left" />I actually got into the community before I lost my virginity. I lost my virginity to a chubby girl I met on the internet after I first read David Deangelo&#8217;s  “<a href="http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/seduction-product-reviews/double-your-dating-review/">Double Your Dating</a>”.  Then I had two years of unintentional celibacy.  After that I decided I was going to try the Fast Seduction newbie challenge which consisted of going out to the mall( Alone which was terrifying to me at the time) and saying “hi” to 50 strangers. This led to Mystery’s 50 sets a week challenge. Which led to me doing 50 approaches a week. 7 a day to be exact(at the mall) for like a year and a half. It took me 6 months to get my first lay from it. But I dropped all ego and looked at this as if I was coming from the lowest possible point. Which I probably was…</p>
<h2>What do you think is the single biggest thing you’ve learned in the community?</h2>
<p>I would say the best thing the community provided, was being able to diagnose what I was doing wrong.  The community principles and the road map of steps changed my thinking from “Man that girl did not like me “ to “Ok I made a mistake in qualification and she thought I didn’t actually like her…” That made things a whole lot easier. And while I have subsequently dropped routines and stuff like that from my game, I think that knowing how sex happens and where you are in the process is an invaluable asset.</p>
<h2>What would you say is the single biggest factor in whether or not someone will get good at “The Game”?</h2>
<p>I actually think that there are two overwhelming factors that determine success. The first is the ability to look yourself in the mirror honestly and accept some possibly ugly truths about yourself and the way you interact with people. You have to look at this objectively.</p>
<p>So many guys get really bummed out because they don’t look at where they are at realistically and look for solutions. I learned a lot about this from the book “The Inner Game of Tennis” . In the book the author talks about how when he would ask a student to describe the problems in their game, they would say things like “My backhand is terrible”. When in reality they hit the ball with too much backspin, or they didn’t follow through enough.  The thing is they subjectively assume this is a bad result as oppose to looking at what’s wrong and trying to fix it.  So guys come to me and they are too busy judging themselves as not being good enough when they just lack a skill or a new way of thinking about things. You have to able to stop judging yourself or trying to be someone you’re not accept where you’re at and then set goals  and work hard to get there. And the weird thing is my students are among some of the coolest guys I’ve ever met. That’s one of the things I’m excited about now is being able to work closer with students for longer periods of time.</p>
<p>The second factor that I think affects whether or not a guy is going to get good is discipline. See everyone who finds the seduction community is smart. Stupid people just don’t find the community. They don’t sit there asking if there are algorithms or classes to get better with women. And smart people are great. Unfortunately one of the things they are really great at is making excuses. You have to do the work to get good at this. And it’s not easy. It’s unbelievably worth it once you get the good. But it’s a long difficult process where you are going to immensely challenge a lot of beliefs you have about yourself, women., sex and relationships… And it can be difficult to get over sticking points. Most guys never get good, because they aren’t disciplined enough to keep working at developing the skills. Most guys want the magic pill, he easy fix, and that’s not what we provide. But in exchange for a good deal of discipline and hard work, you will be able to constantly have beautiful, amazing, women who have all the qualities you want in your life.  But that discipline means doing the approaches, it means not giving in to fear, or laziness, or excuses that you know are bullshit. It means working on your skillset until you find the woman (or women) of your dreams and can keep her. One of the things David Deida says in “The Way of The Superior Man” is to stop looking for completion with anything. Life is a process of working on things. You will be dealing with women for the rest of your natural life. You will always be using your skills with women, and trying to develop yourself as a person. Always ,so be disciplined about it but recognize it’s now a part of your routine. Same as showering.</p>
<h2>What do you think game is?</h2>
<p>I always think of game as having three parts inner psychology, skillset, and lifestyle. This means that the combination these three variables will be your result. A lot of guys fall into the trap of trying to develop a lifestyle, but not having the skillset to take advantage of it. Or guys will sit at home and work on heir inner game until they become too confident to actually feel the need to talk to women. Or guys will go out and just practice routines and lines and they end up like me going to some real dark places because I was getting girls based on what I was doing as opposed to who I was.  To me the real beauty of the idea of these three things is working on them all in unison. By understanding your job better or starting to pursue a side passion in addition to your 9-5, you become a more interesting person which helps your skillset because when you talk about yourself  you have cooler things to talk about. By gradually changing your ways of thinking by becoming more positive or being less critical you feel better about yourself and people will like you more because you like yourself more. So it all works together and that’s why I’m never going to be teaching more than 6 students at a time EVER again. It’s just not enough personalization. That’s my biggest goal as a teacher, to teach EXACTLY what that  particular student needs to get better.</p>
<h2>What’s different about what and how you teach?</h2>
<p>I always say that I’m a little different because I try out everything. I’ve played around with every different system out there from Brad P’s stuff to Speed Seduction and everything in between. I’m not dogmatic. I recognize that every student is different and what works for one guy because of his unique advantages, another guy may not be suited for. I also believe in efficiency. I don’t want to be running around doing 20-30 approaches a night to get laid. Ideally I want to do one approach and take that specific girl home that night. But at the same time I don’t impose my goals on my students. I think if there is one place where being judgmental has no place, it&#8217;s the Secret Underground Internet Seduction Community</p>
<p>Whatever your goals are, chances are I’ve worked on that part of my game be it Making girls fall in love with you for long term relationships(Breakthrough Comfort) or picking up strippers in a strip club, I’ve done it and taught others to do it too. I don’t believe that there are any one perfect system and I won&#8217;t claim to have one. But I do have an intimate working knowledge of all systems and I’ve retained what’s worked the fastest for me and my students such as Future, El Topo, Ozzie from RSD, The Don, Braddock, and a ton of guys who got good and left the community because they achieved their goals. That&#8217;s what I’m about guys reaching their relationship goals, whatever they may be.</p>
<h2>Why did you leave The Mystery Method?</h2>
<p>I think at this point of my life, I need to be running my own thing. I have very specific ideas about what I want to do in terms of products, instructor quality etc..  I had a great time working for that company and I’m still friends with a bunch of those guys and continue to endorse them. And they feel the same.</p>
<h2>What do you think the biggest mistake guys make with women is?</h2>
<p>I think the single biggest mistake guys make is that they freak out when they get a response from a woman that they don’t understand. I’m a big believer in adaptability. Most guys have bought into this idea of the perfect pick-up. They believe that if you larn every routine or tactic or master body language, or whatever you will be able to effortlessly float through all your interactions with women without any awkwardness. That’s entirely the wrong type of thinking. Things will never be perfect and a large part of game is the ability to figure out on the fly why you’re getting a bad response and what you need to do to fix it. But most guys who come to bootcamps , as soon as a girl says something challenging(Even flirtatiously) they clam up or let their discomfort show. To me I NEVER let it seem like I’m uncertain about anything when interacting with women, even when inside I’m frantically trying to figure out what to next. I also don’t shut up when I’m uncomfortable, I talk more. That was a big lesson too, when I first started I would record myself and listen to it over and over to hear the differences between when an interaction worked or didn’t. I noticed that a lot of what I was saying back then didn’t hit. But because I kept talking and changing subjects, eventually something would hook. I think if all guys just remained calm or even just projected a calm demeanor when being tested by women, their results would get 50% better.</p>
<p>Women especially attractive women are always noticing your comfort level around them, be it socially, or sexually. If you telegraph that you don’t know what to do and that you’re looking to her to see if anything is ok, she loses attraction. There was a great quote on  the “ Sex and The City “ episode about “modelizers” ( guys who only date models) this guy said that you have to be able to walk up to the hottest girl in the bar and treat her just like every other girl. He further elaborated that the same dogs smell fear women smell a lack of confidence. I agree with both points. But the coolest thing is that you can train yourself through progressive desensitization train yourself to actually become more comfortable in these situations. It’s a matter of reframing them in your mind not as terrifying but as opportunities for growth or as intense experiences. Then regularly pushing yourself out of your comfort zone until your comfort zone expands.</p>
<h2>You teach a day game program, talk to me a little about day game.</h2>
<p><img src='http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/wp-content/uploads/sinn-pua.jpg' alt='sinn-pua.jpg' align="left" /> Day game is really about your ability to be a normal person. Everything slows down during the day and there is much more of a focus on rapport and qualification as opposed to attraction.  You also want to be careful not to creep the girl out by being too touchy. I always say you never touch a girl during the day in a way that you would be uncomfortable touching your boss.<br />
 I love day game because I think it allows you to practice your skillset all the time. I remember one of the things that always bugged me was seeing that super hot girl walking the opposite direction of me during the day when I knew that if I never talked to her, I would never see her again. That’s why I got in the game. I also think it expands and improves the quality of women that you meet. A hot medical student is unlikely to be up in  “da club” at 2 AM on a Wednesday.</p>
<p> The biggest problem guys have meeting women during the day is that they try too hard to get attraction. Most guys confuse sexual attraction ( Which is generated through arousal) with the attraction that we create ( Which is generated through communication).  I always try to qualify women as quickly as possible during the day because you have legitimate time constraints and most of the time, the act of looking together and approaching is enough to get attraction.</p>
<h2>You also teach a program on picking up strippers any tips on that?</h2>
<p> Yeah I originally learned how to pick up strippers from Mystery but as the years went on I came up with a bunch of my own ideas, that contradicted a lot of his stuff. Like the idea of letting a girl sit in your lap while you talk to her, or not hammering at the idea of not being a customer right away. But it wasn’t until I met Shaft in Dallas that my ideas really took off. He was doing a bunch of stuff with compliance and investment that was light yeas ahead of where I was. See stripper game all comes down to the duel between her two sub-personalities. The salesman(Or stripper) and the real girl. This is where the idea of cognitive dissonance comes in because there are only so many things a salesperson can do for you before they start to compromise their beliefs and have to justify that they are doing these things for you not to get a sale but because they like you.  So the key is to grow that real girl while not doing anything to make that stripper personality uncomfortable.</p>
<h2>What’s your best technique for guys looking to get better at Same Night lays?</h2>
<p> I think the biggest factor in SNLs is knowing your logistics and seeding the pull. That means that somewhere in normal conversation you ask the girls what they are doing later. Then when they respond you have a plan that you are going to do. So when 2 Am rolls around they’ve already heard about the after party or the great Crepe place you like to get breakfast at.  A lot of SNLs comes from actually having the balls to push risk losing the set. As Brad P says “ Blow me or blow me out.”</p>
<h2>What can we expect to see from you now that you’re on your own?</h2>
<p>The first thing I’m going to be doing is a tour of all the lairs that will have me all over the world. It’s really important to me to be a man of the people now. I think all of us instructors have spent far too much time in our ivory towers and not enough time meeting and trying to help our fans that make our lifestyle possible. So I want to get out there talk to these guys and tell them how the community helped me and how it can help them if they let it. I also hope that my story serves as  a cautionary tale to keep other guys from losing themselves like I did. So if you have a lair and want to get me to come talk to you guys email me at sinnstravel@gmail.com.</p>
<p>I’m also offering personalized routine stacks that focus on teaching guys to convey who they actually are while setting the proper frames and having way points for escalation so even the most basic beginner knows when to move the girl into isolation, ask for a phone number, pull them home… etc.</p>
<p>Finally, I’m going to be coming out with a bunch of products including DVD sets for Breakthrough Comfort, Same Night lays, and Getting Started in the Game. Plus we’ll be releasing a monthly mastermind series where myself, El Topo, and Captain Jack discuss various aspects of game, lifestyle and inner psychology.</p>
<p>I’m going to continue to teach students in field as that’s my roots and allows me to really put my expertise to it’s best use. But I will not be working with everyone. I’m going to actively screen my students to make sure I only work with guys who are committed and dedicated to getting EVERYTHING they want out of their relationship lives. I know it’s possible.</p>
<p><strong>I think I speak for most guys here when I say that I&#8217;m looking forward to Sinn&#8217;s weekly column here. You can access it via the main navigation at the top.</strong></p>
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