You never did that before???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZVmN7VViYI

Oyyyyyy MINGERRRR

A lot of Papa’s material was familiar to me, but was presented in a fresh way. All stuff I need to hear more often to get it programmed. All good.

I personally don’t care about playboy mansions or big parties or being a PUA. I just want more choice w/women. Again, this was a big help.

Btw, I bet of these other companies gave a free tour I would also get a lot out of it.

Hope Y’all come to Israel soon!

Look, Papa was a bit mechanical in his presentation – he’s no Tyler – but he did fine.

Being forced to do pickup in the mall was a mind blower for me. Cathartic. Exactly what I needed. My whole game has been upped. Met a couple like minded dudes w/ fluent English, which I have also been lacking, not being a local here. Since then I have been doing easier sets like social circle party, coffeeshop nearby tables – and having fantastic success b/c my comfort zone has been stretched.

I’m almost 40, going out with women in 20-25 range suddenly. WTF happened? Sure, I read all these PU guys and study too much, but this real life thing pushed me over the edge. Could anyone have said “go PU girls while I get a beer” ?? Sure. But these guys had the clout to get 30 dudes in Israel to show up together…

Thanks RSD for a life changing evening.

So, I address this message to EVERYONE saying the Free Tour was great. I noticed that NONE of you say what’s actually good in it. So here’s your chance.

What did you like?
What did you learn?

That should set things straight.

“If someone says something bad about my favorite pickup company, that mean he has been paid by the concurrents”

That’s so fucking stupid, I’m laughing out loud.

I also went to RSD Free Tour (in Amsterdam and in Brussels), and basically it’s Papa showing pictures of himself with girls, then he gives a few tricks everyone already knows. It you think that the RSD Free Tour is a useful thing, you’re were obviously pro-RSD from the start. Try to look at your notes and at what you really learned that day… if you really do it seriously, you will be shocked… you didn’t learn anything.
How can anyone say that the Free Tour is a good thing?

You should also watch the “Flawless Natural” product you downloaded illegally… but this time try to be critical about it. RSD products make you feel good while you watch it, so if you’re not really smart, you associate it as being a good product, because “you LIKE it” (I’m using your own words!!!). Whether you like it or not, I don’t care… what’s important is that you learn something, and that you can then apply it in-field.

read the articles from magazines at RSDs website, or see the free tour yourself, or view one of there products and you will see that it is legit. I particularly like Flawless Natural.

Anyways, I took an ABCs of Attraction bootcamp and used to intern at a NYC based PU company.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42A_PXAPn3k

sometimes an endeavor in research that’s an over-specialization is required to realize the true essentials. minus the dark side of the pua force– the ability to pick up ANY women without ethics and morals– it really just boils down to…oh crap; well i gotta cut it short. look, i’ll release my product for 100% free to the community, but i’ll need another 5 years. i’ve gotta tackle this Sc.D. first, so until then gents…

I’ve seen Braddock in-field and he wasnt the least it impressive

I’m not pure chode, but far from a guru. I will pay the price for an expert to show me the path. I also want to find like-minded friends…mine deny they need any improvement.

I’d love thoughts on a few questions:

– For a newbie…what boot camps are the best bang for the buck?

– What forums or blogs should I frequent?

– Are lairs/groups usually open to welcoming and teaching new members?

Feel free to email guiseppe.roman@gmail.com.

–Guiseppe

What’s up.. sorry to see you guys did have a bad experience with RSD. I did one BC with RSD in London, with Ozzie on London.

For me it was one of the best weekend of my life. Before that I was shy, but I was talkative and stuff… Ozzie said he didn’t know if it was because of my brazillian vibe. Because girls loved me..

I don’t want to make a marketing thing for RSD, but I think it’s unfair.. that everyone is saying Love System rulez.. RSD sucks.. I think it will depend on the instructor and on the guy.

Like I’m a pretty social guy, have some good friends, talks with a lot of people. My problem was always talking with hot girls on clubs and bars. And I think that got me resolved. When the matter was girl, I always got very nervous. Since my bootcamp I have build up a confidence, got some girlfriends and stuff…

My thing was that.. I did have some very little expectation from the bootcamp. I thought “OK, I’m good at opening.. now I want to be better in confort.” And then when I reach the BC, girls were grinding me, talking in my ear… it was a good experience.

I never did a BC with LoveSystem, so I don’t know. I’ve heard some good stuff from a student here in Brazil, but I’ve also heard some bad stuff.

I then went out solo in-field* (*you know the real world?), and through Trial and Error, gauging reactions of who I was approaching, taking in feedback and making constant adjustments I unknowingly gained “an instructors level skill-set” according to one “Top 5 PUA” when I booked him for a live coaching session.

How much do you think you’d gain long term from only One Weekend of Training?
Until someone invents a device like in “The Matrix”, that allows PUA knowledge and skills to be directly uploaded in an attendees Mind- the answer is not much.

One complaint from people reviewing PUA Bootcamps is the power of hindsight. Whilst initially it feels like your feet aren’t touching the ground after the seminar, and many feel compelled to write ass licking reviews the truth is many slip back into their old ways.

After my seminar and One to One, my initial Opinion was this
1)Choose a company who has realised an easy to follow product, that can be used and replicated infield (Venusian Arts Handbook, Magic Bullets)
2)ASAP put into real world practice what it is teaching, One Step or Chapter at a time.
3)Realise you will get feedback intially. Blowouts, Rejections, False Starts, being told to fuck off etc. Its like wanting to be a boxer/martial artist but not wanting to “spar” (fight with a live opponent) becuase you are affraid of getting hit.
4)Read external literature on numberous subjects, Body Language, Evolutionary Biology, Influence (by Robert Ciadini-is good), Self Help, Confidence.
5) Get some additional non PUA Life Coaching, Therapy (I did and didn’t regret it)
6) Network with people who bring genuine Value into your life,Social Connectors, Female Pivots, Cool Guys or anyone who you wouldn’t necessarily take out on a Saturday night but whom adds Value (personal trainer at gym, Martial Arts Instructor, Meditation Instructor, Psychology Tutor, Business Adviser etc).

As for taking a Bootcamp realise this. Success with women is not about idolising a well known instructor, its about working on yourself and thinking about “How Can I” be like that guy and achieve what he achieves.
When I finally met this “Top 5″ instructor in all honestly I realised I knew all the answers in theory (the person was knocked back by my knowledge.
I just needed to learn to make decisions for myself.

1. They successfully approached and number-closed women. Not just to demonstrate to thir students that they could do it, but because they genuinely found the girls attractive. And they were successful! Then they came back and went into a detailed analysis of exactly what had happened and why. Everything was covered from the approach, body language, eye contact, positioning right down to what exactly was said.

2. The level of understanding, knowledge and experience the instructors possess is self-evident. Not because they overtly proclaim their level of expertise, but because it is demonstrated through authority. After watching a student approach, they pick out exactly what the student was doing well, where they could improve on and how best to succeed on the next approach. All feedback was tailored to each individual student’s style and personality, rather than spouting generic advice that could be gleaned from a book.

The next girl that student approached resulted in a successful number close within 5 minutes. Incredible!

I’ve not been on an RSD course. I don’t need to now. I saw the success and efficiency of the Love Systems Instructors before my eyes.

Fact is, they practice what they teach and ARE able to work with, as opposed to preach at, students and empower them to succeed.