What The Seduction Community Is Not About

by Editor on January 4, 2009

Read this post, and tell me if this seems like a guy you should learn anything from, let alone one of the most important skills in the world to master:

CACHED GOOGLE COPY


Neil Strauss and Ghita from Ideagasms (ex-instructor)

So the question is, if Stephane is someone who reacts to a breakup in this way, should you really be trusting his opinion on much of anything? Sure, we aren’t perfect, but that is his business’s blog… Seems extremely irrational and probably a guy you would meet at a party and later would say, “Who the FUCK was that WEIRDO?” and you all would laugh at the after-party afterwords. Don’t be that guy. Please.

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Stealth January 5, 2009 at 1:24 am

Yeah. He’s being very reactive to the breakup, but it’s understandable. He’s invested so much into this girl. I wouldn’t learn from him, but I really wouldn’t learn much from Style either. Style (and some of the other ‘gurus’) have no tact or respect.

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Aspect January 5, 2009 at 1:46 am

ok… hold up… first off, irrational is not a word, everything we do is rational, the guy is pissed so he’s venting… let him vent, and as a man be understanding to his venting. empathize with his situation for as long as his path meets yours then leave it alone. don’t waste your time on people who aren’t aiding you in understanding and learning the lessons you’re here to learn.

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truth January 5, 2009 at 2:15 am

Do I think it’s possible that Stephane might think those thoughts and even think about putting up a website right after being dumped? People come to extreme conclusions when they’ve been hurt. That would still be stretching it, but what puts this over the top as the page of someone who is NOT someone I would learn from is the fact that the page is up. That he had the time to think about and then put up a page like that, and then leave it up, tells me that Stephane is in no position to teach anyone anything.

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evilwoobie January 5, 2009 at 8:36 am

he got dissed and he’s hurt. I would personally just break something in private, but everyone’s unique and that was his way of “breaking things”, i guess.

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DC January 5, 2009 at 11:15 am

what a freak show.

stephane get your pills and get some professional help.

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David Clare January 5, 2009 at 12:28 pm

Yawn.

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Donovan January 5, 2009 at 12:46 pm

Agreed, learn from whoever you’d like to, but carefully consider them as a mentor.

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Tuplad January 6, 2009 at 1:33 pm

A cokehead ripping off people and then a huge rant cuz he got hurt… lol!

The things he writes on his blog are ridiculous, like, that’s something you’d tell your shrink.

I’m an ex ideaGasms follower. I’ve been there from 2006 to september 2008. Fuck, I have wasted 2 years of my life on that shit.

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Tenmagnet January 6, 2009 at 3:43 pm

Looks like he deleted the post… :(

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gigi January 7, 2009 at 7:02 am

Not taking Stephane’s side, but I have found that the most pathetic thing that a man can do, is hang out with a girl who is CLEARLY on a revenge spree after a breakup, and tries to get back at her boyfriend by dating/screwing around with everybody he knows.

And who is there to jump at the dubious role? Neil Strauss.

Honestly, anybody surprised by now?

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Donovan January 7, 2009 at 4:46 pm

Gigi, I don’t agree. I don’t believe she owes him anything. Clearly, she’s broken up with him, as per his response to the whole situation. He is the one with loss, not her. So he reacts to everything she does. Just because she hooks up with someone in her social circle that she’s attracted to, doesn’t make her on a revenge spree.

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gigi January 7, 2009 at 5:25 pm

But he wrote there that he dumped her and not the other way around.. if that wasn’t the case then no problem. Still I don’t appreciate Neil Strauss through ;) Although Stephane needs a hard core psychiatrist if you ask me.

Anyway I agree with what you said that thankfully this is not the face of the whole dating education industry.

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Ana-Dating January 8, 2009 at 7:03 am

Let us all just learn the lesson here. Infidelity is a crime:-)

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Natural One January 12, 2009 at 3:40 pm

iG is well on it’s way becoming a cult.

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Zictor January 14, 2009 at 1:39 am

Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t understand shit from that link in the post.

From the picture and the comments, it seems that Stephane’s ex girlfriend hooked up with Neil Strauss and he reacted badly to it. Where did you guys get all this info in this post?

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Rich January 14, 2009 at 4:07 am

Looks like the page in google cache has been changed?

For those wondering what the fuss was about, stephane had a major melt down. (is anyone surprised though, im my experience the more someone tells you how “enlightened” they are, the bigger chance they’ll actually be the complete opposite)

I mean sure , people can react badly to a breakup, but this was absurd. To give a summary, he repeatedly goes on about being the greatest lover/pua/being/ on earth (and probably other planets too) but the forces of darkness (aka just about everyone else) are conspiring against his greatness.

Then he just goes all stalkerish and posts tons of social network videos and commentry about what a fucked up slut ghita is….all the while preaching about how its all out the goodness of his heart.

In short, he didnt just sound like a heartbroken boyfriend, he sounded like a deluded asshole and possibly the kind of guy who, post divorce would smother his children or drive them off a cliff or something …but only out of a mystical higher love of course.

Sorry, that last bit’s harsh, but he really gives me that creepy vibe. The community needs to be more about social skills and self improvement and less about cultish new agey bullshit.

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RichardBrianPenn January 19, 2009 at 3:08 pm

So does this mean that Neil has a raging case of STD’s now?

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LulzFactory January 22, 2009 at 9:59 pm

Wait let me get this straight. Neil is getting cozy with some PUA’s ex-GF while Neil’s ex is passed out on the couch? Man when I did that they kicked me out of the bar, lying down on the couch that is.

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MrE2u2 February 15, 2009 at 6:57 pm

And Strauss is the guy we’re supposed to believe and follow now? Have you forgoten that DISASTROUS ‘expose’ interview he did on that lame show, THE VIEW, or the book, THE GAME? How soon you young guys forget, and apparently, forgive betrayals.

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richard February 18, 2009 at 5:03 am

‘its all his fault’ha ha wtf . we guys arent really bothered with these stuff…remember its always girls who dont want to give it up at first… those guys would consider themselves lucky . i say let guys queue up round the corner, anything free and easy is always worth while..

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steve February 19, 2009 at 2:39 am

why? cause he is better than you?

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