Donovan: G’day Thundercat, how are you?

Thundercat: Good, good - busy. Not only is my new course coming out this week, things are exploding on the blog. Between Tyler stepping down from Real Social Dynamics and Ross Jeffries being a devil worshiper, I don’t know what to focus on!

Donovan: Ha ha… sounds like Christmas came early for TC.

Thundercat: Nah. These guys aren’t going anywhere, they’ll be around forever. I just want to focus on more positive things.

Donovan: Like your upcoming course?

Thundercat: Helping guys out, yeah. That’s fun for me.

Donovan: So let me ask you this - over the pat few months, you’ve been releasing these videos showing you in potentially embarrassing situations. What’s the point of them?

Thundercat: Well, all my life, I’ve always been really insecure about my looks. Being overweight, bald, etc. doesn’t really help your self esteem. But I found a way to overcome that and get the type of success I always wanted.

So even though I now know that looks aren’t as important as I once believed them to be, there are still a LOT of guys out there who think because they don’t look like a male model, they can’t get the type of women they want.

The videos were all meant to show guys that if a fat, bald, ugly shlub like me can get hot chicks, then anyone can.

Donovan: But do you really believe looks don’t matter?

Thundercat: I believe appearance matters. The better you can make yourself look, the better off you are. But if you’re not tall, not skinny, not muscular, with a big nose or big ears and no hair on your head - what can you do about that?

Nothing. You’re stuck with the way you look.

So you have two options - either play the victim and dispair over the fact that you’re not genetically what you want to be, or work with what you got and get what you want anyway.

I used to play the victim. Even when I was going out 5 nights a week to the clubs, in the back of my mind, I didn’t believe I could succeed because I didn’t think I had the looks.

It wasn’t until I was able to overcome that limiting belief that I was able to have the kind of success I really wanted with women.

So yeah, I’ve come to believe physical looks don’t matter. But you still have to look as good as you can. Shower, groom, smell nice, dress nice, etc.

Donovan: I know what you mean. It seems like its easy to resent good looking guys, when in reality, they don’t have that many advantages over other guys.

Thundercat: To be honest with you, I used to really resent good looking guys. They never realize how their looks help them with women, and I resented the fact that it came easy for them.

But the fact is, good looking guys have just as much trouble with women as average guys do, because lots of them never bother to develop an interesting personality or sense of humor. And once a girl gets past your looks, what then? She’ll get bored and move on if there’s not more to you.

We’ve all been in situations where we’ve grown attracted to someone we weren’t attracted to at first. That’s the advantage of having a great personality - it gives us a chance to win the girl over to us!

Sure, if we’re not the girl’s physical type, we can’t just go up and get a 10 minute lay. But luckily, girls are wired a little different from guys, and how you can make a girl feel emotionally will usually outweigh her initial physical attraction.

Take me for instance… I have a LOT of women tell me I’m attractive. Just to give you an idea, I’m close to 300 pounds. I shave my head. I think I’m hideous. But these girls think I’m attractive! Why is that?

Its because when they’re around me, I make them feel good! They get turned on because I know what buttons to hit and how to hit them.

I use my personality to subtly create intense feelings of connection, fun, and intrigue.

Its counter-intuitive, I know. But it works (and thank god it does!).

Donovan: So what inspired you to make this Pure Personality course?

Thundercat: Well, it really came down to my friends. All my friends are better looking guys than me. Some are taller, all are thinner, and most have been blessed with a wonderful head of hair, lol.

So when we’d go out to the clubs together, they of course would get all the female attention, and I’d have to really fight and claw to get anywhere with a girl when they were around.

Tather than try to compete with my friends, I had to find a different tactic. One where I wasn’t trying to “out game” them or be at the mercy of their physical attractiveness.

So I came up with the Personality stuff.

By using my Personality, I was able to sit back, have a good time, help my friends meet girls, and relax. And when I did that, I started to get more attention than my better looking friends!

Focusing on personality really helped me level the playing field, because even though my friends were better looking, I was where the party was at, so the girls came to me.

That’s where the genisis of the course came from. I thought “Hey, if it can work for a shlub like me, it can work for others too!”

Looks, age, weight, skin color - whatever you think holds you back with women, if you go the right personality, you can overcome it.

Donovan: But everyone has a personality. How does Pure Personality help guys bring out their personality instead of just cloning yours?

Thundercat: Because I go into the process of getting people addicted to who YOU ARE. Not who I am. I don’t share any pre-canned routines in the course, rather, I give step by step instructions on how to tailor the techniques to your situation.

I give you the tools for how to be more funny, how to be more engaging, how to work a room, how to tell a good story, how to keep a conversation going, and many other things.

And then, I show you how to use elements of your personality and your beliefs, interests, and experiences, and apply them to those tools.

So what you get is a good approximation of “natural” game, witht he structure routines give you.

The best example of this is my Conversational Ninjitsu tactic.

This is a tactic you can use to keep any conversation going strong for as long as you want it. It is a 6 step system, but the outcome mimics a real conversation because you actually have to pay attention to what’s being said by the girl.

Everyone I share it with is really amazed.

So you won’t see a bunch of “Thundercat” clones running around out there with this course (heaven forbid). You’ll see guys being able to tailor it to suit their own needs, so no one is “fronting.”

And it works great with every other school of seduction out there, because its all based on what you project to the world about who you already are, rather than what you say or do.

Donovan: You mentioned that conversation skills are a big part of your course. What makes Pure Personality different than say, other “conversation” products out there?

Thundercat: Well, the first is that its not all about conversation. It’s about how to be funny, how to properly tease a girl (so many guys do that wrong!), how to build your reputation and meet lots of people quickly and easily.

Conversation is a part of it, but it isn’t the whole thing. Conversation is a tool you use to show people your personality and get them addicted to it.

It’s also much more naturalistic than other conversation methods out there. It’s not robotic, its fluid. Its like “Jeet Kun Do” for talking. You change and adapt based on what you say and what they other person says, just like a real conversation, but you have guideposts to help you out.

You know when to toss in a joke, how to make it funny, when to tell a story, when to listen, when to excuse yourself, etc.

The product is more about how to be social than anything else. Its great for guys who are shy or introverted.

Donovan: So you’re saying it goes deeper than just conversation skills?

Thundercat: Oh yeah. it goes to the core of who you are. It’s about being an attractive guy, and seeing who picks up on that.

Think of the word “attractive” for a minute. To “attract” something is to pull something towards you based on qualities that thing seeks out.

When you’re attracting women, women need to come to YOU, and the only way that will happen is if they see something they like and desire.

They might not desire a 300 lbs. bald guy, but they sure desire the feeling they get when they laugh, and have a good time, and feel protected and safe and happy. That’s what this course is all about.

Donovan: Okay, I like what I hear. So how much is the package, and if I ordered it, what do I get?

Thundercat: Well, the course is BIG, so its going to cost a little money, but its nowhere near as expensive as some of the other courses people have been putting out.

Basically, you get a series of video tutorials, audio interviews, training assignments, and manuals - all covering specific aspects of the system.

And keep in mind, this IS a system. Its not just a bunch of attributes you learn willie-nilly. Its a process you go through, so its very structured.

I’ll also be giving away a lot of bonsues. So people get access to the course as soon as they pay, but after three months, I’ll also ship them a pysical version of the course so they can watch it at their leisure away from the computer.

Not only that, I’ll also have a special coaching club available to the first 50 people who sign up, and special “practice” sessions for the first 100 people to get the course.

Basically, I’ll get one of the super-hot girls I know to get on the phone with me and the students, and have the students practice on them during the call, then the girl and I will critique how the student did and give them feedback on how to improve.

I’m excited about that because its something new and different, and its a great way for guys to practice in a safe environment.

So for all that, I’m charging three payments of $197. You can also pay one payment of $497 and get a discount for paying all at once.

Donovan: How does pure personality differ from Renegade Rapport? They seem to overlap on many topics, or have I got that wrong?

Thundercat: They don’t so much overlap as they compliment each other.

See - a lot of my game is based on internal state, beliefs, confidence, and interpersonal interaction. Renegade Rapport is about how to build deep connections rapidly - sometimes before even talking to a girl.

Pure Personality is about getting as many girls as you can to pay interest to you so you can gain those connections.

So if Renegade Rapport is about how to get a girl to fall in love with you, then Pure Personality is about how to get a girl interested in you - so the “falling in love” part becomes easier.

But more than that, Pure Personality is about teaching guys to have fun! Its about showing them how to get out of their head, how to stop being nervous, how to stop being introverted, and have fun around really attractive girls - something so many guys have trouble with.

Pure Personality is also about helping guys get away from the bad beliefs they have about themselves. Its about giving them the tools they need to feel attractive, instead of trying to “fake” it.

Donovan: So if I got access to Pure Personality tomorrow, how would I put it into practice?

Thundercat: Well, basically you’d go through the videos, then the audios, then text, and finally the assignments. The assignments are where I outline the best way to acclimate yourself to the techniques.

The course is very streamlined. You’re not going to find a lot of fluff in there.

I also have some input from some very incredible guys in the community. Barry Kirkey is in the course, as is Adam Lyons and Brad P. All are amazing guys and they share some incredible stuff.

Donovan: So when is the course coming out and how can people get it?

Thundercat: Well, I know a lot of people out there are tired of “marketing” stuff, but I really think this type of thing can really help guys out.

You don’t have to buy anything to see what the course is about. Just go to:
http://www.looks-dont-matter.com
I have 8 free videos up there you can go through and see how this course will work.

The course is being released on August 30th, which is labor day weekend. The order page will go live at 9:00 am Pacific, 12:00 pm Eastern time at the link above.

(So watch those videos while you have a chance! They won’t be up past Friday!)

So if there are guys out there who think they might like to feel better about themselves, feel more attractive, and get more women, they’ll definitely want to give it a shot.

And if not, hey, no worries. I’m having fun just making the videos and doing the interviews like this one! lol.

Donovan: Cool man. Well, thanks for taking the time to talk with me about it.

Thundercat: No problem bro. Keep up the great work on your blog!

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