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		<title>By: MikeStoute</title>
		<link>http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/08/07/is-sargenation-bias/#comment-3338</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeStoute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TNW: So are there legal reuses of RSS feed material?

Sunstein: No. Well, the longer answer is, yeah, maybe. It gets to be possible, but a lot of people put content on the Internet and expect it to be protected by copyright. You don&#039;t need notice of copyright. You haven&#039;t since Jan. 1, 1978. If you publish without a notice, it doesn&#039;t mean stuff isn&#039;t protected. If I put my stuff on the Internet without notice, I can still sue if someone redistributes my RSS feed.

Some of these rules are still vague. For instance, Google (Nasdaq: GOOG) Latest News about Google saves pieces of Web sites for their searches so that when you search, you can find a snapshot of a page in time. Are they allowed to do that? This hasn&#039;t been litigated.

http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/exclusives/44364.html

@Ced I guess you missed this part at your job ;) The hammer is coming, it&#039;s just taking the legal system time to catch up... (and I say this with all due respect)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TNW: So are there legal reuses of RSS feed material?</p>
<p>Sunstein: No. Well, the longer answer is, yeah, maybe. It gets to be possible, but a lot of people put content on the Internet and expect it to be protected by copyright. You don&#8217;t need notice of copyright. You haven&#8217;t since Jan. 1, 1978. If you publish without a notice, it doesn&#8217;t mean stuff isn&#8217;t protected. If I put my stuff on the Internet without notice, I can still sue if someone redistributes my RSS feed.</p>
<p>Some of these rules are still vague. For instance, Google (Nasdaq: GOOG) Latest News about Google saves pieces of Web sites for their searches so that when you search, you can find a snapshot of a page in time. Are they allowed to do that? This hasn&#8217;t been litigated.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/exclusives/44364.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/exclusives/44364.html</a></p>
<p>@Ced I guess you missed this part at your job <img src='http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  The hammer is coming, it&#8217;s just taking the legal system time to catch up&#8230; (and I say this with all due respect)</p>
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		<title>By: Ced</title>
		<link>http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/08/07/is-sargenation-bias/#comment-3337</link>
		<dc:creator>Ced</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. My internet education level is just fine, it&#039;s my job.
2. I didn&#039;t compare it to google technically, or not even functionaly or conceptually. You didn&#039;t understand (obviously) that I just compared the fact that Google don&#039;t provide their own content, but content written from others. And it&#039;s not stealing. SargeNation, or any other aggregator, is NOT stealing anything, it just provides a service for site which provide content.
3. You talked about the validity od the rankings... I didn&#039;t and I don&#039;t have/want/need to, I was just commenting on the &quot;stealing&quot; part, nothing else. You shouldn&#039;t use that to make it look like I don&#039;t understand, it&#039;s just manipulative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. My internet education level is just fine, it&#8217;s my job.<br />
2. I didn&#8217;t compare it to google technically, or not even functionaly or conceptually. You didn&#8217;t understand (obviously) that I just compared the fact that Google don&#8217;t provide their own content, but content written from others. And it&#8217;s not stealing. SargeNation, or any other aggregator, is NOT stealing anything, it just provides a service for site which provide content.<br />
3. You talked about the validity od the rankings&#8230; I didn&#8217;t and I don&#8217;t have/want/need to, I was just commenting on the &#8220;stealing&#8221; part, nothing else. You shouldn&#8217;t use that to make it look like I don&#8217;t understand, it&#8217;s just manipulative.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeStoute</title>
		<link>http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/08/07/is-sargenation-bias/#comment-3336</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeStoute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@cedric

No offense, but you obviously don&#039;t know what I am talking about and the fact that you even compare the concept to Google demonstrates your internet education level (no offense), and at this point I am to tired to explain it again. Read above and maybe you will see what I am talking about. This isn&#039;t about saregnation, the discussion went to blog aggregation and how it’s used on sites; owner and user generated content and the validity of their rankings among their own content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@cedric</p>
<p>No offense, but you obviously don&#8217;t know what I am talking about and the fact that you even compare the concept to Google demonstrates your internet education level (no offense), and at this point I am to tired to explain it again. Read above and maybe you will see what I am talking about. This isn&#8217;t about saregnation, the discussion went to blog aggregation and how it’s used on sites; owner and user generated content and the validity of their rankings among their own content.</p>
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		<title>By: Cedric</title>
		<link>http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/08/07/is-sargenation-bias/#comment-3335</link>
		<dc:creator>Cedric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in case you don&#039;t know it, the blogs have an RSS (xml file with articles details and summary/description) for that specific use, and also for visitors who want a way to keep track of the new entries.

A blog owner can disable this feed if they don&#039;t want an aggregator to make their content known to a larger public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in case you don&#8217;t know it, the blogs have an RSS (xml file with articles details and summary/description) for that specific use, and also for visitors who want a way to keep track of the new entries.</p>
<p>A blog owner can disable this feed if they don&#8217;t want an aggregator to make their content known to a larger public.</p>
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		<title>By: Cedric</title>
		<link>http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/08/07/is-sargenation-bias/#comment-3334</link>
		<dc:creator>Cedric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google is providing us with websites names, websites description, links to the websites, a way to search them with keywords, ...

Isn&#039;t Google also stealing ???

That just nonsense, Sargenation is a way to promote what you write, and it&#039;s not stealing since it links to the author&#039;s blogs and they don&#039;t take any credit for these blog entries.

I just cannot see why some of you have issues with it :)

When you write a blog entry, you want people to know about it and read it (on your own blog, of course). SargeNation is a tool that helps you achieve that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google is providing us with websites names, websites description, links to the websites, a way to search them with keywords, &#8230;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t Google also stealing ???</p>
<p>That just nonsense, Sargenation is a way to promote what you write, and it&#8217;s not stealing since it links to the author&#8217;s blogs and they don&#8217;t take any credit for these blog entries.</p>
<p>I just cannot see why some of you have issues with it <img src='http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>When you write a blog entry, you want people to know about it and read it (on your own blog, of course). SargeNation is a tool that helps you achieve that.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeStoute</title>
		<link>http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/08/07/is-sargenation-bias/#comment-3333</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeStoute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am no talking about sargenation in particular.

Just blog aggregation in general. Forget about the credit and stuff...

IMO

&quot;when say 90% of your site is other peoples content (which is CACHED on your domain) and you are running ads against it? I call it steeling.
If these sites were citing articles and they were say 30-50% of their total content, then maybe it’s being done ethically.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am no talking about sargenation in particular.</p>
<p>Just blog aggregation in general. Forget about the credit and stuff&#8230;</p>
<p>IMO</p>
<p>&#8220;when say 90% of your site is other peoples content (which is CACHED on your domain) and you are running ads against it? I call it steeling.<br />
If these sites were citing articles and they were say 30-50% of their total content, then maybe it’s being done ethically.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/08/07/is-sargenation-bias/#comment-3332</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a little hesitant to write here as I&#039;ve never gotten involved in the bickering in the Seduction Community or really cared what other people think of my stuff or what they do with their own blogs but I felt that some things need to be clarified about SargeNation.com

SargeNation was created as a free service to benefit both readers and blog owners by giving them one place to share the most interesting content in one place.

Readers benefit because not only can they find a variety of different blogs with great content that have been voted up by it&#039;s users but they can also bookmark each story and store their favorite bookmarks in their profile for later reference.... that&#039;s kind of the point of a social bookmarking site, which is exactly what SargeNation is.

Blog owners and webmasters benefit from having a headline of their story and a small summary (usually a few sentences,  NOT 90% of the story) posted on the site which brings in traffic directly to their site because all of our links link out directly to YOU!  Most blog owners have thanked us for the amount of traffic we&#039;ve sent that they otherwise wouldn&#039;t have seen.

The concept is similar to Digg.com which was started as a place to bring together stories about technology in one place so that users could vote for the stories they like best and can also use it as a way to bookmark and track those stories.

We set out to offer a similar service for this community. The topic of our content is all related to Dating Advice For Men.

GrowYourGame.com has had similar services to this in the past, and we&#039;ve maintained a friendly relationship with them and commend every other website owner out their who is adding value to this community by creating new ways for users to read and share content.

As for the Mehow product review... We get dozens of requests to review products and we&#039;ve only written about the few products that are unique and innovative. I&#039;ve checked out a ton of products that are crap and I don&#039;t mention them on our blog.

I think Mehow&#039;s product is brilliant, he&#039;s offering a way of  teaching pickup that&#039;s never been done before and I think it&#039;s great.

But that&#039;s MY OPINION and I have the right to state that on my blog, just the way you all have the right to state your opinion on your own blog. I don&#039;t necessarily agree with some of the products other people promote, or other gurus they host articles for but that&#039;s the beauty of all this. We can all have a different opinion, but we all have one goal in mind, and that is to help Men maximize their game in the best way possible.

I think everyone on this comment thread has provided great value to this community and I respect your opinion and commend you for you&#039;re ongoing commitment to changing people&#039;s lives.

Warm Regards
Jason
SargeNation.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a little hesitant to write here as I&#8217;ve never gotten involved in the bickering in the Seduction Community or really cared what other people think of my stuff or what they do with their own blogs but I felt that some things need to be clarified about SargeNation.com</p>
<p>SargeNation was created as a free service to benefit both readers and blog owners by giving them one place to share the most interesting content in one place.</p>
<p>Readers benefit because not only can they find a variety of different blogs with great content that have been voted up by it&#8217;s users but they can also bookmark each story and store their favorite bookmarks in their profile for later reference&#8230;. that&#8217;s kind of the point of a social bookmarking site, which is exactly what SargeNation is.</p>
<p>Blog owners and webmasters benefit from having a headline of their story and a small summary (usually a few sentences,  NOT 90% of the story) posted on the site which brings in traffic directly to their site because all of our links link out directly to YOU!  Most blog owners have thanked us for the amount of traffic we&#8217;ve sent that they otherwise wouldn&#8217;t have seen.</p>
<p>The concept is similar to Digg.com which was started as a place to bring together stories about technology in one place so that users could vote for the stories they like best and can also use it as a way to bookmark and track those stories.</p>
<p>We set out to offer a similar service for this community. The topic of our content is all related to Dating Advice For Men.</p>
<p>GrowYourGame.com has had similar services to this in the past, and we&#8217;ve maintained a friendly relationship with them and commend every other website owner out their who is adding value to this community by creating new ways for users to read and share content.</p>
<p>As for the Mehow product review&#8230; We get dozens of requests to review products and we&#8217;ve only written about the few products that are unique and innovative. I&#8217;ve checked out a ton of products that are crap and I don&#8217;t mention them on our blog.</p>
<p>I think Mehow&#8217;s product is brilliant, he&#8217;s offering a way of  teaching pickup that&#8217;s never been done before and I think it&#8217;s great.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s MY OPINION and I have the right to state that on my blog, just the way you all have the right to state your opinion on your own blog. I don&#8217;t necessarily agree with some of the products other people promote, or other gurus they host articles for but that&#8217;s the beauty of all this. We can all have a different opinion, but we all have one goal in mind, and that is to help Men maximize their game in the best way possible.</p>
<p>I think everyone on this comment thread has provided great value to this community and I respect your opinion and commend you for you&#8217;re ongoing commitment to changing people&#8217;s lives.</p>
<p>Warm Regards<br />
Jason<br />
SargeNation.com</p>
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		<title>By: Scot McKay</title>
		<link>http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/08/07/is-sargenation-bias/#comment-3331</link>
		<dc:creator>Scot McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, I&#039;m not exactly following your question.

I haven&#039;t known Sargenation to take my content and claim it as theirs.  Every headline on there that points to a piece of mine directs to my site fairly enough.

Theoretically, if someone were to take my content (or any other virtual property, for that matter) and run it without credit that would be stealing and it goes without saying that no author is going to be happy about that.

Incidentally, the page that loads on the root domain at sargenation.com is actually the &quot;popular&quot; list.  If you open the &quot;upcoming&quot; tab, you&#039;ll see the other submissions that have one or two votes.  Three votes is the magic number on Sargenation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I&#8217;m not exactly following your question.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t known Sargenation to take my content and claim it as theirs.  Every headline on there that points to a piece of mine directs to my site fairly enough.</p>
<p>Theoretically, if someone were to take my content (or any other virtual property, for that matter) and run it without credit that would be stealing and it goes without saying that no author is going to be happy about that.</p>
<p>Incidentally, the page that loads on the root domain at sargenation.com is actually the &#8220;popular&#8221; list.  If you open the &#8220;upcoming&#8221; tab, you&#8217;ll see the other submissions that have one or two votes.  Three votes is the magic number on Sargenation.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeStoute</title>
		<link>http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/08/07/is-sargenation-bias/#comment-3330</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeStoute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blog aggregation is one thing... but when say 90% of your site is other peoples content (which is CACHED on your domain) and you are running ads against it? I call it steeling.
If these sites were citing articles and they were say 30-50% of their total content, then maybe it&#039;s being done ethically.
Grow your game?
http://www.growyourgame.com/story/Matador_Teaching_how_to_Approach_a_Seated_Two_Set_part_2_A_Modern_Mens
Comes up with the Pligg software, Digg Clone...

@Scott
as an author you are defending this practice? All authors I know hate when people do this sh*t to them?

&quot;The simple solution is to get a username and vote for the posts you’d prefer to see get a higher vote.&quot;

Do you own one of these???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blog aggregation is one thing&#8230; but when say 90% of your site is other peoples content (which is CACHED on your domain) and you are running ads against it? I call it steeling.<br />
If these sites were citing articles and they were say 30-50% of their total content, then maybe it&#8217;s being done ethically.<br />
Grow your game?<br />
<a href="http://www.growyourgame.com/story/Matador_Teaching_how_to_Approach_a_Seated_Two_Set_part_2_A_Modern_Mens" rel="nofollow">http://www.growyourgame.com/story/Matador_Teaching_how_to_Approach_a_Seated_Two_Set_part_2_A_Modern_Mens</a><br />
Comes up with the Pligg software, Digg Clone&#8230;</p>
<p>@Scott<br />
as an author you are defending this practice? All authors I know hate when people do this sh*t to them?</p>
<p>&#8220;The simple solution is to get a username and vote for the posts you’d prefer to see get a higher vote.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you own one of these???</p>
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		<title>By: Donovan</title>
		<link>http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/08/07/is-sargenation-bias/#comment-3329</link>
		<dc:creator>Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grow Your Game seem to be in the midst of updating. Can&#039;t wait to see what it looks like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grow Your Game seem to be in the midst of updating. Can&#8217;t wait to see what it looks like.</p>
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