Both methods are fine.. But you choose what you like.

In my city most us began using mystery method. But started hating using canned stuff and opinion openers. Soo we switched to natural.
It’s harder but it’s you.

If someone else likes a different method then they should use it. It just seems ppl are defending they’re pick up style like it’s them. Its not them. Pick up is just a skill set.

By the way, Alex came down to our town for a bootcamp and for Jeffy’s world tour (Wut happened to Jeffy?). The guys who attended Jeffy’s world tour had to sign a wave stating that they would not teach any type of Pick Up for three years and that any revenue from pick up within those three years would god to RSD.

I wasn’t expecting that… lol

It’s madness over there though, Tyler himself often says that using routines now and then is perfectly fine. But the hordes of magicpill swallowing RSD fanboys forget that all too often. It’s really just an ego thing… They get off so hard from being all like CORE-MUTTHHAFUUKKKEN-CONFIDENCE etc etc and I AM SOOhOOhOOO EGOLESS/ENLIGHTENED AND ALL THAT IN THE NOW!

Of course they get all pissy and defensive if somebody shakes their realities a bit. It’s grade A chode behaviour, everything that doesn’t fit my worldview has got to be taken down.

RSD attracts these people that are often pretty dim witted and couldn’t be arsed to learn a routine to begin with and are basically just waiting for that *click*

and waiting and waiting and buying some more RSD products while they’re waiting some more.

Check out TSB’s Mike Stoute infield video. He blows all you guys away!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BVAh8×7_92E

Anybody can attend a shitty bootcamp(aka RSD) and improve. It’s not very hard pushing newbis into sets and getting them open, or even getting a # close- it’s all about getting consistent results in and out of the field.

I may not like Lovesystems,but their conduct is..charming. Kudos to that,and continue leading this community.

That being said, the basics are covered, and he demonstrated absolute control of body language. For TV shot, he rocked it. I don’t care that what I witnessed was just # closes in the shortest amount of time. Its just TV, for entertainment, not for demonstrating what goes on in your weekend long “bootcamps”.

Frankly, I don’t know what RSD is like. I just know that we ran into a local RSD coach this weekend and what he told us was just a big ole hard sell.

SHOW ME motherfucker, don’t TELL ME. I didn’t see it. If you can’t SHARE something of value when you meet PUA’s in the field that may consider signing up for a bootcamp, then it just smells to me that there’s not a whole lot substance behind the hard sale.

That being said, my friend did sign up and go through the bootcamp. They made him open 10 sets, he blew 6, but got 4 phone numbers. From where he was, that IS massive success… for him.

But I got some extra game, out of sheer experience of LIFE, and unless there’s a “bootcamp” format for “advanced students”, then I’m just not going to be interested.

I don’t need someone telling me that body language is the foundation of pickup… I learned the concept from Cajun (thanks man) and I learned the rest from reading, doing, and reading some more, etc.

Of anyone I could possibly consider a bootcamp or one-on-one, it would possibly BE Cajun because I never read a set of articles that so succinctly put the term “body language” into a concrete concept. I’ve had several “Ah ha” moments in the beginning, but none was as strong as Cajun’s material, and to me that speaks volumes.

And even he response to this article right now, this guy gets it. I don’t really care about the rest, and unless they can SHOW me something that blows my mind, I’m not interested in doling out 2 or 3Gs for some tool to tell me the 3 second rule. No thanks.

a) with what type of girls (only mediocre party girls as I have seen with my own eyes)

b) with how much consistancy.

RSD teaches some useful things that Tyler has taken from reading hundreds of self-help books, but at the end of the day they are just a bunch of random dudes who like to go out and have fun and go crazy. There is nothing bad about that, but they aren’t as skilled as they make themselves to be or more “enlightened” than anyone else in the community. If you are a shy guy, sure they will give you some good advice to be more “unstifled”. If you want to have an abundance of beautiful women in your life, also look at other sources.
If you want “enlightment” don’t look at these people, they are not the kind of people you want to model.

Cheers!

Paul

If I would have used my own style on the show it would have been like showing up to a sword fight with a bazooka. People want to see me use the same sword they have, and STILL kick ass. So thats what I did. I was out to make our whole company and its teaching philosophy look good, not just myself.

Now if those RSD guys want to complain about me teaching shitty sword techniques when I could have fired the bazooka, well, I say to them, you need to learn how to pick up the sword before you can fire the bazooka, otherwise your just gonna blow yourself up (or out hehe). And no disrespect to Alex and the rest of the RSD guys, I can understand where a lot of your criticism came from, but hopefully what I just said cleared things up a bit. We should all get together for a bazooka fight sometime…and ill still bring my sword, because thats how I roll motherfucker!

And “A lovesystems instructor” I am going to jagger the shit out of you so deep that you will be pissing jizz you limey piece of shit! How dare you insult my non-existent velvet jacket!