My idea of a good number close is to make it appear as though you never asked.
Wait for the conversation to get to its climatic point ,whether that would be through making a deep connection, or making her laugh to the point of tears. You have to at that very moment, end the conversation!
And say:
“I’ve really enjoyed OUR conversation, but I’m being really rude here,because my friends are waiting for me”
This is will make it seem that she is the one who has been keeping you there from your friends; furthermore, it allows you to demonstrate that although you have enjoyed yourself you have other plans. (always keep your audience wanting more)
Its vital you pick that climatic point of the conversation carefully, as it is common for guys to go beyond that point. After that intense moment of connection there is inevitably a lull, which, might confirm the fact that your still strangers and her barriers might return.
Quite literally many guys “miss the boat” in this situation.
Next, look at your watch, as you get up from your seat/down your drink/gather your cigarette packet and lighter and say
“We should carry on with this another time”
“Should” is the key word here. It’s more effective than “Can I” or “it would be nice”
Get out your phone before she has a chance to respond and hand it to her; tell her to tap in her number. Do this before she has a chance to react or, time to think “Should I give my number to this stranger? I’ve only known him for a few minutes, what if he’s a weirdo? I cant believe he thinks he can get my number this easy etc etc”
You must ALSO say:
“Right, when you have done that make sure you put it under a nickname, I can tell a lot about someone by there self appointed nickname, you know, how creative they are etc…”
This is a major point to this technique; it covers 2 things at once
1. It distracts her from the act of actually passing on her details, as she will find the task much more entertaining (girls like this shit)
2. It will suggest that she has already accepted giving over her details (never underestimate the power of suggestion.)
Good sales people do this all the time. You go in the store to maybe buy an item you had in mind, notice the good sales person will not ask if you want to buy one, instead they will ask you how many you want. Making you believe you have already decided on it and now are in the process of worrying how many you actually need!
This is a great way to number close a woman; she can get cold feet about handing you her number, even if she likes you!
If its been a short and sweet encounter, she will be thinking “but I’ve only known
him for a few minutes”
Please don’t be tempted to think this yourself, going beyond that pinnacle point of an interaction can ruin your chances. Rather instead, use this little tip of setting the nickname task.
Remember when delivering the task, do so with absolute self-assurance that she will perform – give a cheeky smile but remain dominant. (As always when you are giving a task)
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Ah… in sales it’s called “Assuming The Sale” and many times… you’ll see it done with pricing options.
So it’s not:
“Do you want to buy?”
It’s:
“We have option 1… or option 2 which saves you a buck or two. Which one works best for you.”
Leaving at the point where things are going great is also a great tip.
See the Zeigarnik (or Cliffhanger) Effect…
In other words, you remember “unfinished” business more than finished business.
Strong post!
I tried it today, with 5 different girls (2 during the day, 3 at night) and guess what????!!!. I got 5 NUMBER CLOSES!!!!
I LOVE YOU KEZIA!!!!!
Thanks very much Brad
welldone Mauel, it shows you delivered it well too.
I love reading Kezia’s articles.
Even though I’ve had a girlfriend for 2 years, long before I even heard of the community.
But one thing I don’t understand is this obsession with number closes. I mean, usually, I did my work right there, and if it didn’t work out, I very seldomly would call or anything.
I mean, how many numbers do you need to have for each actual date that turns into something?
I like what Kezia has to say about the number close. You also have to remember that, it’s not just about how well you number close, but as well as important is a great connection. When you have a deep connection with a women, they will at times grab your phone and hand the number to you or even suggest to give you their number.
One thing I would do different here, you don’t always have to get the girl to think of a cute name instead you can give her a cute name based on your observation about her.
David Wygant has some great stuff on connecting with women at a higher level. I personally favorite all his articles, they’re that dern good.
it really work even in africa, i tried this today and just could not believe i had their numbers. you are great
thanks alot.i can know get numbers easily
Once again a woman shows us, their dominance in the field. Awesome article. Noticed you stopped uploading pictures, hope it´s not for some creepy comments.
Keep up the great work. Finally, Kezia do you sarge?
I saw David Wygant at the Art of Charm workshop in LA a few months back, and he made a great point about getting women’s phone numbers. In a nutshell, he said that getting a bunch of phone numbers from women is a total waste of time…unless you actually follow-up with the women and make something happen.
Yeah, that’s pretty obvious, but I bet there’s a lot of guys out there doing just that.
I know I did. After the wake up call, I deleted a lot of numbers of gals I never called or who I had forgotten who the hell they were. But it’s still a hard habit to break. I recently got numbers from two gals I had approached at Starbucks after having short conversations with them, but got very different results simply by changing the way I got their numbers.
On the first gal, I got her number by saying something like, “Hey, we have to get together sometime, let me have your number.” She gave it to me, and I promptly forgot to call her for 4 or 5 days and then when I remembered and left her a voicemail, I never heard back from her.
For the other gal, I got her number by telling her that I was going to be out of town for a week, but when I returned that we were going to meet for a drink. This was right in front of the barristas and though she seemed a little surprised, she said, ‘Okaaaaaay.” I then had her put her number in my phone and told her I would text her so she’d have my number. We exchanged texts once or twice when I was away, and she texted me asking if she could call. We had a couple of short phone conversations and then after getting back into town, I called her up and set up our get-together for drinks 2 days later. We met at a bar, had a couple drinks and she followed me home for a very entertaining evening…
The moral of the story…if you DON’T actually DO something with the number, NOTHING happens!
Great work… thanks. Keep it cumming!
Hi Kezia,
I am new to this subject of urs though it sound interesting I would need more advice on this stuff and cool tips on dating women, young ladies etc.
I hope to hear from u soon.
Chao, Edwin(WestAfrica)
Hay K,
Thank you, for this as a number close, please write a book or eBook or something all you’re stuff is always like Gold Dust and seams to work really well. I am only new to all this PUA stuff but am flying by and feel i can almost get anyone i desire but when i read what you write it always takes me to a new level.
cheers, Charmel
PS, Kezia are you on facebook ??
nice
Hey Kezia
Awesome tips! Brilliant tactic! Love that that whole thing about hey i wanna know how creative you are.. Very playful
I’ll be using this one, thanks Kezia
thanks for this advice. We have talked before about the nice guy thing and I am trying to be the good guy instead by negging more. I am still fucking up alot but trying. Like tonight I didnt say anything except neg a little and the girl thought I was wierd. I don’t get why. Anyways I think this number close thing might help make a girl not think I’m wierd and it might make me come off as cocky funny. Thats what David Deangelo says may be good. Anyways thanks=)
You can also tell her you wanna give her YOU’RE number, write it down, tear the paper in half, then hand her the blank piece of paper and pen.
If you had a connection she’ll just write it then you’ll exchange papers. No need to ask anything..
I think I first heard that from Neil Strauss. It works.
David Gideon
Awesome stuff Kezia
Im in sales! This indeed is very interesting all you have to do is simply be confident, approach her and carry a conversation with her. Then go for the number…
Hi, my name is Silber , I am a brazilian PUA , I mean, I really like your site. Knowledge Pua is little known in my country.
I apologize for my English and hope to see you participating in our forum.
Thanks!!
Great peace of advice, I like the plausible deniability effect you’re suggesting here Kezia, thanks for the advice.
I love this it reminds me of how I act only thing I’m shy tho I need help with tat
awesome stuff kezia, i like how you introduce a false time constraint just when the girl really digs you, then get the number and move out, the question is does one walk away immediately after number closing or stick around for a minute or two so it looks like getting her number wasn’t the point
I reil like what Kezia say…i have done it since then and i have been a verry successfull man to get woman….