I don’t know why some women seem to feel they have the right to drag a guy through the mud because they like to pickup girls – as if that poor asshole is grovelling for your attention and you have the right to decide whether he should live or die, seriously YOU make me sick. So what if someone IS a douchebag, that’s his problem. What gives you the right to launch into attack mode on principle alone? Do you think your God? Hitler? What is your problem?

Seriously guys, we give women too much credit sometimes I think we need to be harder on them and more discerning. Maybe they should be giving us the attention for a change.

“When you realize how perfect everything is, you will tilt your head back and laugh at the sky”

david AND ross talk about how what you say depends on what the woman is doing for an approach to work. the idea they both carry across is that instead of thinking about what to say, think about how to connect and notice the environment. Ross and David are both extremely similar from a NLP standpoint.

I am using ross speed seduction and after 2 weeks i was introduced to david wygant’s videos. i notice nearly NO difference with the techniques they present. they say the same exact thing just in a slightly different way. Ross stuff is excellent but i was fumbling over understanding some elements of it and that video i saw of David put everything together perfectly. but i would not have understood anything unless i had seen Ross videos first.

in my opinion they should partner up. (although i disagree with NEG’s so if wygant uses them then shame otherwise if he does not, that is great. true communication should exist without the need to harm someone into bed.)

Ross is not an angry person. you see that assumes that we can attribute a mental state “anger” to a person. which is untrue. ross gets angry sometimes is the only truism. but we can say the same for all of us. David gets angry as well, when you see his replies to his haters, although they are funny, they are unnecessary since you don’t need to take them seriously. though its possible he may have been doing that as a ruse for attention. david and ross are both excellent people nonetheless.

Both methods are nearly identical, ross just explains his own methodically and david explains his own through feelings content and connecting the feelings to the work. thus i see no difference other than the way they present the techniques. (david says we chase the grapefruit, Ross says we hump the rag-doll)

I like to take a synergistic approach. I find Ross’ teaching can be useful when conversing with a girl one-on-one and stuffs to be used in the moment, while David’s more about guidelines and rules and a feel-good approach.

In the end, whatever methods gives you the desired results, GO FOR IT lol. Have fun with life. Take care of yourselves ^_^

I’m familiar with both programs and it’s a matter of taste, but I like David Wygant’s style better. David says he respects all people but he does single out a particular group of people in one of his programs because he’s not a religious person himself. Another guy teaching on the same subject, singled out the intellect, which is a person he deems as a partying type with no personality. He’s not a religious guy either but his singling out example is more practical with less bias. His approach seems to be David Wygant influenced as he is critical also of the pick up lines. I prefer natural within who you are rather than telling the same pick up lines over and over again…It seems to get boring after awhile even with success and it only works on certain women.