2. dr.phil would be pissed if he figured out how many girls the pua’s had slept with. (not to judge)

3. MAN, those girls really dig what savoy teaches and mystery made up.

,MANNIFR3ZH

PS- for some reason i kinda feel AMOGing could be a great social artform within itself almost like self defence if we were talking about matial arts in other words it can help u get what u want but also help u keep wat have like once u have a attractive girl a 10 lets say even though u have already been to that boy friend girl friends stage there are still sharks out there that try to break ur bond in an instant jus cause they think themselves stronger or better suited

Give me doclove anytime.No card tricks, lines no BS.Steve “the dean williams” is also another good one as well as a podcast

called “the chick whisper” all can be found I-TUNES.

I list will list some podcasts that I found to be very interesting, far better than most of the pap you will find in the

“mainstream media”.

If you have I-tunes installed this is how you find them.

1)Go to the I-tunes store.

2)on the right you will see a link called Power Search, select it.

3)you will be taken to the power search engine.

4)On the top left corner you will see the words power search, select podcasts.

in the title field type the chick whisperer

5)click the search button underneath you should see the podcast come up click the subscribe button.

Not that I agree with all the things these people have to say but it does not hurt to see other views.

Again use the i-tunes power search feature to find these other ones.

dating 4 men

Dating Dynamics

Datingcast

joseph’s podcast by Joseph W. South

lifestyle dating radio

Man up (Reclain your role)

Online datine profile

Pillow talk

upfrount and straightforward

the player supreme

There seems to be a hypocritical stance on both sides of the coin. Jeffries Ross should be on the show. Now matter how much we all like to hate him, he was the founder of this community. I still remember seeing him on the Donahue show promoting his book when it first came out. He did have his share of lying however..come on man nlp is hypnosis no matter how you look at it. The mystery method guys saying to be yourself is a bunch of BS as well. Your not yourself if you are using a tried canned opener. I find it funny how every one seemed to candy coat their reality just to save face value. If it where me up there. I probably get the same reaction as Steve…the dude that started men are better than women.lol

Ross teaching you how to get laid, by crude fashion none the less, while the MM teaches you a way to build social skill. Basic bull-shitting! And everyone bullshits from time to time. Like “hey, did you do something to your hair? It really looks nice” when you really hate it. No one gets hurt by that.

Now both sides lied on the interview. MM denied the about the Full Close and Ross lied that he doesn’t teach hypnosis. Now it’s no secret that men want to “full close” women. Women everywhere know it. But knowing that some men will try to hypnotize them will give the pickup community a bad name. I guess that is why he is ashamed to admit what he does.

M.E.

Is there any other source for this video?

However, within the context of a controversial thread and its replies (like Thundercat’s RSD rant, for example), I think there are some really good insights into this business- how products are promoted and marketed, the positives and pitfalls of this journey, etc…Occasionally when people get passionate and emotional they are likely to say something really interesting, even if the rest of the thread is 80% junk.

This could be just a rationalization, but I like to think I’m glued to the drama because the arguments get closer to the essence of things.

Instead of managing to put the community in a good light. He just starts badgering the Mystery Method, which seems like his main purpose on the show.

And now the fella does work for Stylelife and the Venusian Arts.

Well he defnitely can have an opinion about push-pull and techniques but he better thanks the lord that no one started reading out any of the explicit SS patterns, because the Audience reaction would definitely get very bad.

The problem with Ross is that he thinks that he is pretty smart, that he is putting people in their place, that he is winning AMOG battles that he is actually losing BIG TIME.

At least he seems to be able to not see negative reactions and does have some delusional confidence. Which would mean at least some of his inner game work may be working.

A lot of guys complain about all the drama in the community, but you can only listen or read so many interviews about body language, or getting your inner game together, or “becoming a great man to attract a great woman.” After a while that stuff starts to sound like a broken record, but the guru drama always has a interesting angle to it.

I think Ross and a few others have always understood that ammogging other guys in the community is part of the circus and keeps the community from stagnating.

A true pua would never have picked up a chubby like that lol

by the way… does anyone else question Savoy’s sexuality????

I dont know if he is the best at pick up or even if his material is the best but he would far and away be the best spokesman for the “community” as a whole, far more than anyone else, imho.