The Weirdness of Real Social Dynamics

UPDATE 7/16/2008: Apparently, this post is a foreshadowing for the crap storm…. Watch reactions to a infield video by Real Social Dynamics instructor.

I swear I would never do this post, here it goes. Ever since joining the community, I’ve been waiting for the “Blueprint” to be finished writing by Tyler of Real Social Dynamics. That was back at the end of 2004. I still haven’t heard anything new about it, perhaps because I’ve given up.

You’ve probably all heard about the ethical business dealings of Real Social Dynamics, although I’m certainly a bit… doubtful about how true those are.

Didn’t finish the blueprint…

What Do They Have To Offer?

Certainly, Real Social Dynamics would’ve had to close up shop if it weren’t for the David Deangelo seminars and strong mention by Neil Strauss in The Game. They say even bad publicity is good publicity. They are mentioned on the Double Your Dating Advanced Series (both editions), Mastery Series, Approaching Women, Body Language and one other that I can’t remember currently. These products have been around for over 10+ years combined and give them the bulk of their business through referrals, probably not word of mouth.*

* Could be disputed by the amount of PPC campaigns under “Real Social Dynamics” and the numerous domains they own and run to capture most of the traffic.

LackNo Participation In The Seduction Community

Why don’t Real Social Dynamics participate openly in the community? They seem to distance themselves in a strange manner. I’ve never had ONE of my emails returned, and I did receive one from Jeffy (Jlaix) back about 2 years ago, although I think that was before he was even an instructor.

The straw that broke my back was when I saw on Tyler’s blog, that Jeffy had interviewed him about their new product “Blueprint Decoded”. That’s just kinda weird to me. Wouldn’t you get someone like Thundercat (not probably likely), Bobby Rio, Fast Seduction or myself to get the word out and ask unbiased questions?

I was at the Mystery Method Super Conference in 2006 and met a guy that had taken a boot camp specifically with Tyler, and said he felt this weird vibe of bitterness towards women coming from him. Now this is a common thing for many guys in the community but he felt it came more from a source of insecurity rather than desire to teach well. That’s just one guy.

I tried to get an interview with LoverBoy, but he had just started to work at RSD (about 2 years ago) and said they weren’t allowed to…

A senior instructor at Pickup101 was running a workshop in San Fran. They ran into another boot camp run by RSD. The RSD instructor came over and started chewing out the instructor of Pickup101 saying that he had no right to be there, they were there first, and so on. An hour went by and all the girls that were approached by the instructor and students of the RSD instructor were weirded out and started flirting with the Pickup101 students and instructor throughout the night. Guess who had a more enjoyable time?

Stephen Nash, who was PlayboyLA when he instructed at RSD, left them and moved back to NYC. Tyler still hates him to this day. Apparently, these guys teach character-based game but don’t deal with the baggage they cart around personally. Walk the walk is important in my mind. = Discredited by Sinn (see comments below)

Evolving With Their Teachings?

Has anyone noticed that Real Social Dynamics have evolved from their old routine-based teachings to character-based game? Is this a natural progression? Doctor Paul, the chief architect of character-based game, said that as soon as he released his MindOS, and a few other patent-pending seminars based on his personal scientific studies, Real Social Dynamics started leaning towards it and emphasizing most of Doctor Paul’s teachings at their seminars. He did go into further details about KEY TERMS and SPECIFICS which I don’t want to repeat here.

They seem to be releasing more material than ever… I believe, and I could be wrong, to distance themselves from boot camps towards informational products so they get less refunds and make more money.

Here’s A Real Social Dynamics Instructor – Alex

Oh smooth…

After all that, I pose the question…

Is RSD all that bad? What have you guys heard from friends/around the community? Would you take a boot camp from them, or would you prefer someone else? What other positive/negative experiences have you had with RSD? Do you enjoy their products? If so, what benefits have you seen specifically?