Comments on: My Opinion On Thundercat’s Top 10 Pickup Artists of 2007 http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/ Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:18:20 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: O rion. http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-4321 O rion. Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:13:00 +0000 http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/#comment-4321 Where are the Charisma guys? Or Rion Williams? And hasn't anyone heard of Harlequin? Best I ever saw. I would write a giant post about why he should be number 1 but all those who meet him and have seen what he can do know they don't need to go to thundercat for a his blessing of some ranking. I've been in a London club when all the companies seemed to be in there also and Harlequin was leaving with four girls who seemed to be fighting over him before I saw any kind of success from any of the so called PUA instructors that were demonstrating that night. Anyone that gets an opportunity to meet Zan, Johnny or Harlequin should jump at the chance. I can't believe I missed their gig in Brussels. Three of my favorite guys in one city? Johnny, please do another even soon. www.writemen.com/soporno Where are the Charisma guys? Or Rion Williams? And hasn’t anyone heard of Harlequin?

Best I ever saw. I would write a giant post about why he should be number 1 but all those who meet him and have seen what he can do know they don’t need to go to thundercat for a his blessing of some ranking. I’ve been in a London club when all the companies seemed to be in there also and Harlequin was leaving with four girls who seemed to be fighting over him before I saw any kind of success from any of the so called PUA instructors that were demonstrating that night.

Anyone that gets an opportunity to meet Zan, Johnny or Harlequin should jump at the chance. I can’t believe I missed their gig in Brussels. Three of my favorite guys in one city?

Johnny, please do another even soon.

http://www.writemen.com/soporno

]]> By: Charisma http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-3200 Charisma Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:43:50 +0000 http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/#comment-3200 You're right, AFC Adam shouldn't be #3 He should be #1 ;) You’re right, AFC Adam shouldn’t be #3

He should be #1 ;)

]]> By: Johnny Soporno http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-2292 Johnny Soporno Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:13:34 +0000 http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/#comment-2292 Heh - I was completely blind-sided by my inclusion in Thundy's list; I don't really think about myself as being a 'pick up artist' at all, and the things I'm teaching are decidedly NOT meant for picking girls up... I suppose I should point out that the EFFECT of adopting my paradigms and propagating my messages to women very often inspires at least passionate appreciation from them... and that ain't bad ;) Meanwhile, regarding the others on the list, I've met nearly all of them... Mystery and Style are both solid Players, and neither of them needs anything more said. Matador falls into the same camp as Mystery, and plays his Game with precision. AFC Adam is a really bright, playful guy, insightful and socially mature.... his Game is heavily 'entourage' centered, and works well with his flamboyant nature :) I haven't met Swingcat yet; but Brad P, Mehow, and Zan are all solid, and despite their having fundamentally dissimilar methods, all three have my respect for their effectiveness! In particular, Zan and I tend to approach things from very similar mindsets, and accomplish basically the same kinds of enduring successes, but Zan is dedicated to helping women satisfy their cravings for romantic fantasy - whereas I am anti-romance, and dedicated to ensuring that my playmates know EXACTLY what I'm offering them, and what I'm not. I don't know Stephen Nash yet either :) That said, Jeffy from RSD, and Sean Messenger (formerly pickup101, now on his own) both deserve recognition, as they are superlative Players, each with their very-own brand of Game. Anyway, I invite everyone to check out my free 5+ hour long video-seminar, available FREE for downloading from my website: http://www.WorthyPlayboys.com/philosophy-seductive-reasoning.html (and you may freely redistribute them as you wish.) One favor, I ask - PLEASE take notes for yourself as you watch - these videos are FILLED with major paradigmatic shifts and RADICAL reframing. If you don't take notes, you'll miss an alarming portion of the critical value! Johnny Soporno Worthy Playboy Heh – I was completely blind-sided by my inclusion in Thundy’s list; I don’t really think about myself as being a ‘pick up artist’ at all, and the things I’m teaching are decidedly NOT meant for picking girls up…

I suppose I should point out that the EFFECT of adopting my paradigms and propagating my messages to women very often inspires at least passionate appreciation from them… and that ain’t bad ;)

Meanwhile, regarding the others on the list, I’ve met nearly all of them…

Mystery and Style are both solid Players, and neither of them needs anything more said. Matador falls into the same camp as Mystery, and plays his Game with precision.

AFC Adam is a really bright, playful guy, insightful and socially mature…. his Game is heavily ‘entourage’ centered, and works well with his flamboyant nature :)

I haven’t met Swingcat yet; but Brad P, Mehow, and Zan are all solid, and despite their having fundamentally dissimilar methods, all three have my respect for their effectiveness!

In particular, Zan and I tend to approach things from very similar mindsets, and accomplish basically the same kinds of enduring successes, but Zan is dedicated to helping women satisfy their cravings for romantic fantasy – whereas I am anti-romance, and dedicated to ensuring that my playmates know EXACTLY what I’m offering them, and what I’m not.

I don’t know Stephen Nash yet either :)

That said, Jeffy from RSD, and Sean Messenger (formerly pickup101, now on his own) both deserve recognition, as they are superlative Players, each with their very-own brand of Game.

Anyway, I invite everyone to check out my free 5+ hour long video-seminar, available FREE for downloading from my website: http://www.WorthyPlayboys.com/philosophy-seductive-reasoning.html
(and you may freely redistribute them as you wish.)

One favor, I ask – PLEASE take notes for yourself as you watch – these videos are FILLED with major paradigmatic shifts and RADICAL reframing. If you don’t take notes, you’ll miss an alarming portion of the critical value!

Johnny Soporno
Worthy Playboy

]]> By: gigi http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-1053 gigi Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:16:15 +0000 http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/#comment-1053 nah.. Neil Strauss' book gave them a bad name and that book was the ticket into the community for many. Business wise they didn't do anything more nasty than any other PUA. comparing to Mystery and Style's exploits (Annihilation Method and Mind of Mystery), any other PUA is a saint from heaven. nah.. Neil Strauss’ book gave them a bad name and that book was the ticket into the community for many.

Business wise they didn’t do anything more nasty than any other PUA. comparing to Mystery and Style’s exploits (Annihilation Method and Mind of Mystery), any other PUA is a saint from heaven.

]]> By: LexIcon http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-1052 LexIcon Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:29:38 +0000 http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/#comment-1052 I'm a really big fan of the Real Social Dynamics crew. Do they get no love because they are the "villians" of The Game and the community? I’m a really big fan of the Real Social Dynamics crew. Do they get no love because they are the “villians” of The Game and the community?

]]> By: PolishFalcon http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-1054 PolishFalcon Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:02:03 +0000 http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/#comment-1054 Hmm, I've had the pleasure of meeting Adam this year. This guy is the real thing. Incredibly warm vibe, not overdone, not relying on tricks and such (well, he has some :), but on being congruent, friendly with a good vibe. Honestly, I wish I could be as cool as that guy is. Whereas Mystery, for that matter, freaks me out. Oh, And I've had the pleasure of meeting a couple of Charisma Arts instructors this year and these guys are cool, too. Strange that no CA dude made the list... Hmm, I’ve had the pleasure of meeting Adam this year. This guy is the real thing. Incredibly warm vibe, not overdone, not relying on tricks and such (well, he has some :) , but on being congruent, friendly with a good vibe.

Honestly, I wish I could be as cool as that guy is. Whereas Mystery, for that matter, freaks me out.

Oh, And I’ve had the pleasure of meeting a couple of Charisma Arts instructors this year and these guys are cool, too. Strange that no CA dude made the list…

]]> By: Johnny http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-1060 Johnny Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:55:51 +0000 http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/#comment-1060 AFC Adam Lyons spoke at the 2007 PUA Summit in Hollywood (www.puasummit.com) and got a standing ovation! You can watch his speech on the DVD, but he really is amazing. Another guy I would reccomend to be on the top 10 list would be The Asian Playboy, he is the only interracial dating coach out there and was awarded the best Asian Pick Up Artist during the summit. His new company is the ABCs of Attraction (www.abcofattraction.com) AFC Adam Lyons spoke at the 2007 PUA Summit in Hollywood (www.puasummit.com) and got a standing ovation! You can watch his speech on the DVD, but he really is amazing.

Another guy I would reccomend to be on the top 10 list would be The Asian Playboy, he is the only interracial dating coach out there and was awarded the best Asian Pick Up Artist during the summit. His new company is the ABCs of Attraction (www.abcofattraction.com)

]]> By: The Saint http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-1059 The Saint Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:46:08 +0000 http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/#comment-1059 Re AFC Adam, I think what Thundercat means is that although Adam has tight Game he has found a lifestyle that gives him so much social proof there isn't a need to use Game. In effect, Adam has evolved........ Re AFC Adam, I think what Thundercat means is that although Adam has tight Game he has found a lifestyle that gives him so much social proof there isn’t a need to use Game. In effect, Adam has evolved……..

]]> By: a http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-1058 a Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:29:38 +0000 http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/#comment-1058 It seems that some of these are on the list not because they're so great, but because they made extra efforts with their marketing this last year. Just because they're name is hot in the community doesn't mean they're top ten. DavidD DEFINITELY should have been on there. I'd say Lance Mason and Carlos Xuma have been big contributers...though Lance Mason more in the last year. It seems that some of these are on the list not because they’re so great, but because they made extra efforts with their marketing this last year. Just because they’re name is hot in the community doesn’t mean they’re top ten.

DavidD DEFINITELY should have been on there. I’d say Lance Mason and Carlos Xuma have been big contributers…though Lance Mason more in the last year.

]]> By: gigi http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-1062 gigi Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:32:01 +0000 http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/#comment-1062 here are some videos of AFCAdamLondon's mischief ;) e.g. one minute street game kiss close http://www.puaratings.com/goto.php?pua=afcadam-one-min-street-close about zan, he's definitely the real deal as far as being a ladies man goes, however his truths, while powerful and real, may be difficult for newbies to adopt. for one, he doesn't give guys the false sense of power they like getting from 'cocky funny', 'i am the prize', 'negs', 'who give a shit what she thinks' and so on. zan actually says that 'your power with women comes from letting her have power over you', meaning that your admiration for her is the biggest tool you have to seduce her. this is very true, however can be very easily confused with neediness. although zan emphasizes again and again that it is very far from neediness, it's not easy for many newbies to truly relate to this. my point is - the best player is not necessarily the best teacher. another guy i like a lot is BradP, totally different than zan but very cool in his own right :) i find mystery doing more damage than good to his followers, Neil Strauss is guilty of the same in my opinion. matador is not much without mystery imho. the other guys are good, Johnny Soporno i didn't hear of until now, i should check him out all the best gigi here are some videos of AFCAdamLondon’s mischief ;) e.g. one minute street game kiss close

http://www.puaratings.com/goto.php?pua=afcadam-one-min-street-close

about zan, he’s definitely the real deal as far as being a ladies man goes, however his truths, while powerful and real, may be difficult for newbies to adopt.

for one, he doesn’t give guys the false sense of power they like getting from ‘cocky funny’, ‘i am the prize’, ‘negs’, ‘who give a shit what she thinks’ and so on. zan actually says that ‘your power with women comes from letting her have power over you’, meaning that your admiration for her is the biggest tool you have to seduce her. this is very true, however can be very easily confused with neediness. although zan emphasizes again and again that it is very far from neediness, it’s not easy for many newbies to truly relate to this.

my point is – the best player is not necessarily the best teacher.

another guy i like a lot is BradP, totally different than zan but very cool in his own right :)

i find mystery doing more damage than good to his followers, Neil Strauss is guilty of the same in my opinion. matador is not much without mystery imho.

the other guys are good, Johnny Soporno i didn’t hear of until now, i should check him out

all the best
gigi

]]> By: Hasso http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-1061 Hasso Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:08:53 +0000 http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/#comment-1061 Love to hear some opinions on the top 10. But, i think David DeAngelo "should" be on the top of the list near style and mystery. Double D has take it all, and covered it all. And he's like the "play maker". He made an interview with every one of the gurus. So i think he's the best. Love to hear some opinions on the top 10. But, i think David DeAngelo “should” be on the top of the list near style and mystery. Double D has take it all, and covered it all. And he’s like the “play maker”. He made an interview with every one of the gurus. So i think he’s the best.

]]> By: JT http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-1057 JT Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:10:32 +0000 http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/#comment-1057 How can you have not of heard of AFC Adam? He spoke at the Hollywood conference this year and is highly regarded in the UK. He featured prominently on the recent documentary on the Pick Up scene - The Rules of Seduction. You can see from this that he clearly has very tight game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GFtW7UYyk8 How can you have not of heard of AFC Adam?
He spoke at the Hollywood conference this year and is highly regarded in the UK.

He featured prominently on the recent documentary on the Pick Up scene – The Rules of Seduction.

You can see from this that he clearly has very tight game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GFtW7UYyk8

]]> By: Nirvanos http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-1056 Nirvanos Wed, 09 Jan 2008 03:27:52 +0000 http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/#comment-1056 I'm really confused about this AFCadam guys... TC said it, he said it too... They (himself and tc) say he uses absolutely no "game"... and that he does nothing but building social circles... ...but then, he has a ton of videos of him approaching women on the street with typical openers... he has videos teaching routines and qualification and disqualification and openers etc...... i don't get it really. I’m really confused about this AFCadam guys… TC said it, he said it too…

They (himself and tc) say he uses absolutely no “game”… and that he does nothing but building social circles…

…but then, he has a ton of videos of him approaching women on the street with typical openers…

he has videos teaching routines and qualification and disqualification and openers etc…… i don’t get it really.

]]> By: Bobby Rio http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-1055 Bobby Rio Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:51:14 +0000 http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/2008/01/08/my-opinion-on-thundercats-top-10-pickup-artists-of-2007/#comment-1055 its interesting to hear opinions. i've never seen any of them in the field so everything to me is based on heresay... but i do believe that these guys must be good. personally i've been really digging the teaching of stephen nash lately.. as im no loger into club game he relates to me more i'm also a fan of the master the vibe guys its interesting to hear opinions. i’ve never seen any of them in the field so everything to me is based on heresay… but i do believe that these guys must be good.

personally i’ve been really digging the teaching of stephen nash lately.. as im no loger into club game he relates to me more

i’m also a fan of the master the vibe guys

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