Comments on: Sean Ex-Pickup101 Lead Instructor Is Back With Vengeance!

By: Sean Messenger

Sean Messenger — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:21:00 +0000

Time to give back.

I’ve bought storage space on yousendit for 500 free downloads of my newest podclass. Get it now for the best price you are ever gonna see.

Then I go back to finding sneaky marketing ways to pay rent.

http://seanmessenger.com/2006/12/free-download-hristiyan-teaches-you-to.html

By: johnny

johnny — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:51:41 +0000

Sean,
I respect what P101 teaches; in regards to natural game and how to be a sexy, non creepy guy. But Lance is worse than David Deangelo (Eben Pagen) or whatever you want to call him now. C’mon! You gotta have two different workshops to connect with women? You can’t teach the stuff in AoA and AoR in one class??? So instead you gotta spend almost $5K in workshops to improve your skills? Those guys over at Charisma Arts teach you everything in one workshop for $1500!!! And to top it off they allow you to come back and observe as many workshops as you like free of charge.

I really needed to get this off my chest becuase Pickup 101 has really gone overboard with their sneaky marketing and ridiculous prices. Aleska is right – People are starting to wise up to the hype.

By: Sean Messenger

Sean Messenger — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 03:13:54 +0000

>Instead of making a 500$ product on body-language filled with fluff and filler, spread out thin on 20DVDs, he’ll make a nice podcast that covers the ESSENTIALS.

Thanks man. I’m happy to see that there is a way to get good information to guys at affordable prices (all my classes are $20 or less). I love teaching bigger seminars and classes, and those will always cost more because they cost so much more to do, but I know that anyone who teaches could do a podclass just as I do for minimal cost and bring great products out at good prices.

Sure, maybe some day I’ll fall prey to market research and create scarcity and add value by premium pricing my stuff, and put things on DVDs and add booklets and special reports and all sorts of bells and whistles, but for now I think there’s a great need for fundamentals and essentials from good teachers that everyone can access.

A higher price does not necessarily equal a better product. I’d rather be Target than Armani. Good stuff, good prices, good business ethics, and we even kick in money to charity (we raised over $16,000 for Breast Cancer research in September and October), so you feel good about the money you are spending.

Peace and love,

Sean

By: Sean Messenger

Sean Messenger — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 03:08:34 +0000

>That’s the “New York is so great and has the bestest women eva!” clown.

I love NYC… but that was before I moved to Miami.

There are great women everywhere. Some places it’s just easier to find them.

>what happened between sean and P101?

I respect what PU101 teaches, and I’m proud of what me and my friends accomplished there, but I have new ideas for how I want to teach, and what I want to teach. I want to change the focus from pickup for pickup’s sake, and help guys get better with women so they can find a great girl and keep her.

For guys who just want to keep doing pickup, there are plenty of options. But for guys like me who like having a cool girlfriend, there really aren’t many good places to go. That’s about to change.

By: Aleksa

Aleksa — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:29:26 +0000

Good points johnny… The hypey marketing that used to work in the days is slowly dying out (luckuly), and the people are wisening up. The community is once again evolving.

By: johnny

johnny — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:45:54 +0000

what happened between sean and P101? did sean get sick and tired of Lance’s bullshit marketing and teasing guys with lines like “if you don’t buy this product or take this workshop you will never be good with women” Lance Mason is nothing but a money hungry asshole. Lets put out 12 dvds with 20hrs of boring bullshit and tell guys this is the almighty magic product that will get you laid by any woman you want. I used to like P101 when I first got involved in the community a year ago but now that company sucks and i will never buy another product from them.

By: Dick

Dick — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:47:00 +0000

That’s the “New York is so great and has the bestest women eva!” clown.

By: Sean Messenger

Sean Messenger — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:33:12 +0000

> So what he is trying to say is that we can setup a movie camera on the beech start smoking cigarettes and stare at beautiful women.

That’s set up a MacBook with built-in video camera. Nothing but the best in high-tech for me.

And I keep the beautiful women hidden inside.

By: Aleksa

Aleksa — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:33:44 +0000

I don’t get why you would tune him out for making podcasts? That’s one of the reason i like him. Instead of making a 500$ product on body-language filled with fluff and filler, spread out thin on 20DVDs, he’ll make a nice podcast that covers the ESSENTIALS.

I liked his interview too:

http://seductioncommunity.novicedating.com/2007/sean-messenger-of-sean-newman-fame-fesses-up-in-this-interview/

By: Benten

Benten — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:50:27 +0000

So what he is trying to say is that we can setup a movie camera on the beech start smoking cigarettes and stare at beautiful women. Because I think I might beable to accomplish all this in one day. If you guys want I can tell you how.

By: Sean Messenger

Sean Messenger — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:36:32 +0000

Thanks for the kind words, guys, especially about the writing.

I love writing and I love teaching, and I want to reach as many people as I can. Better men, happier women, and sexier sex for all!

I want to get the podclasses and the MP3s to everyone, everywhere. It’s not fair that workshops are only available for guys who can travel and pay up to $3k for a weekend. When I started this stuff, I loved getting a CD every month from DYD for $20. That’s what I want to do. Give you great stuff for a great price.

But I don’t want you investing anything if you don’t believe in it. Tonight I’m giving a podclass for free. Just sign up at:
http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/sean/

Peace,

Sean

By: Sean Messenger

Sean Messenger — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:36:25 +0000

Thanks for the comments.

I am interested in selling the MP3s. That’s why we make them, to get teaching out there to guys who can’t travel to workshops for reasons of distance or money conveniently and affordably. The 600+ articles are always free. The online forum at http://www.websitetoolbox.com/mb/gettinggreatgirls is always free. The newsletter is always free.

I write every day and encourage people to find products that give them even more education on certain topics, just as I did when I wrote daily emails for PU101.

This is a labor of love, but it’s also a job. I do this full time (when I taught at PU101, I paid the bills with my day job at Stanford). If you like the stuff I teach and write, it’s a great deal for you. If it’s not your style, there are lots of great options. But no matter what, try to find someone you can relate to to guide you in what you want to learn, even if it’s not me.

Peace,

Sean

By: Yummy Stale Bread

Yummy Stale Bread — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:17:39 +0000

I enjoyed reading his posts when he was working at Pickup 101. However, it just seems that since leaving Pickup 101 he is mainly interested in selling his podclasses and his blog posts reflect that. I know he is branching out on his own, but if he keeps it up I’m going to start tuning him out, and I’m sure others will also.

By: Matthew

Matthew — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:48:29 +0000

I’ve been wondering where Sean has gone too. Pickup101 has seemed different since he left. I miss the emails he used to write. When is he going to be contributing articles again?