The Pickup Artist A Fraud?

September 23rd, 2007 • Donovan • Related • Filed Under •

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I’ve heard rumors around the place that Mystery’s VH1 Pickup Artist show was a fraud. The fact that they employed paid actors on the show as contestants. I found a website with Kosmo’s acting bio, and communicated with him recently to get an interview:

— “Donovan (Seduction Chronicles)”
wrote:

Hey Alvaro,
I run a leading dating blog. Would you like to do a brief interview for publication after the last episode airs? Donovan

alvaro manrique wrote:

CAN U SEND ME A LINK OF YOUR WEBSITE? WHEN WOULD YOU WANT TO DO AN INTERVIEW? I CAN DO A INTERVIEW, WHAT CAN I GET IN RETURN MY FRIEND?

KOSMO..

— “Donovan (Seduction Chronicles)”
wrote:

www.seduction-chronicles.net
attraction-chronicles.blogspot.com

We can just do it over email. What can you get in return? Any ideas?

alvaro manrique wrote:

this is a business… i give u something, i need
something back in return, that’s the way it works…

WHAT IDEAS? please be specific… I need to get as
much as i can out of this t.v. show and now that i
know people will want to interview, it needs to be
equal on both pars… WHAT IDEAS? i dont
understand…

— “Donovan (Seduction Chronicles)”
wrote:

Eh, its fine. Let’s not.

I felt that he wanted something that I wasn’t willing to give (money perhaps?), instead of providing a good insight about the show to all of you. This made me think of the show as a whole. I like the community getting media attention, because it helps guys get this area of their life handled. However, I don’t like it when people take advantage of that. I try only to promote products that I believe in. I get so many emails a week saying how they’re the new guru and they’ve got this new technique or this skill set, and it boils down to material already out there.

Anyways, I don’t think all of the guys on the show were actors, but this begs to question how much of the show is rigged, and how much Mystery is actually doing to help these guys?

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  1. Comment by charlotte on 2 October 2007:

    …what you did looks like a set up….GET OVER YOURSELF!…he won!..didn’t you see his emotional up and downs, no-one can act that good.
    plus, I don’t think he is saying anything wrong. maybe is your nasty mind.

  2. Comment by Donovan on 2 October 2007:

    It wasn’t what he was saying it was the general feeling I felt from his email. Perhaps I was leading him, but I don’t think so. I just wanted a brief insight into the show. Instead I felt it would be a show on his part.

    “didn’t you see his emotional up and downs, no-one can act that good.”

    Maybe not him, but I’m sure there are good actors out there that can. That’s why their actors.

  3. Comment by Alrik on 3 October 2007:

    Thanks for sharing that email, Donovan.

    For me personally, it just goes to show what the nature of greed is. I mean, the guy won how many dollars? 50.000?

    And instead of giving something back to the community he asks for even more…….

    On him winning, it’s not very encouraging for average-looking guys. I think he was the most natural of the guys, the best-looking and definitely not the one who picked up most of Mystery technique-wise.

  4. Comment by Steve Savage on 3 October 2007:

    Come on its all rigged. Maybe spoon and pradeep were real, but Brady’s a male model, and Joe W. is a gay male model, and of course Cosmo has been an actor and male model for some time now.

    Yeah right, these guys have problems dealing with people (especially women), sure. Male models always have trouble getting dates.

    Its a shame we males prey on each other, but we do it all the time, which is why on the dating sites males spam other males with fake female IM’s, and male hucksters trick other males into buying expensive dating seminars and books.

  5. Comment by TightGame on 4 October 2007:

    Kosmo doesn’t understand the economics or marketing of the pickup industry. He should do an interview on your site and similar publicity work for free, then try to sell the guys on his ebook or $300 CD/DVD course. That’s the way the system works. Kosmo may have learned pickup, but he needs David Deangelo to explain to him how internet marketing works.

  6. Comment by Mack Tight on 5 October 2007:

    You should have told him the interview would show up on your site before the final episode and not after it. That way the interview would be to promote the season finale and there might have been some contractual obligation for him to do it.

    As it was, I would have offered him an opportunity for him to plug whatever he wanted at the end of the interview (links to his MySpace profile, acting profile and contact info, etc.) That’s standard.

    If that wasn’t enough for him, so be it. That’s his choice. You should understand how it is as a webmaster who gets tons of email from people trying to get you to promote their product or spend your time answering their questions for free. You only promote the products you are an affiliate of and get revenue for promoting. In the same fashion, why should he do a free interview for a site that would ultimately gain revenue from the interview?

    I think he handled the interaction just fine and it is no reflection on the legitimacy of the show.

  7. Comment by Khan on 6 October 2007:

    Kosmo sounds like a greedy SOB, but not a fraud. And let’s face it, everybody who knows even a little game immediately tries to sell it.

  8. Comment by Jaht on 7 October 2007:

    look out for the kosmo method, change from chum into greedy chum in less then 8 weeks!
    only 4000000$!

  9. Comment by Seduction Chronicles on 7 October 2007:

    I don’t neccessarily think Kosmo is a fraud, but the show could have been more honest. I “get” that it’s show business and a certain degree of showmanship and intensity is required, but… to hire actors? Is Kosmo’s victory real or was it staged from the beginning?

  10. Comment by Gav on 10 October 2007:

    Look when you want to interview a “celebrity” you have to pay. That’s how it goes. It’s good journalism that you managed to get his e-mail address rather than his agents but I’m surprised he actually talked to you without just passing you off to his agent who’s undoubtably revieved thousands of similar interview requests.

  11. Comment by Donovan on 10 October 2007:

    Well, we all know he’s no celebrity. Neil Strauss did an interview with me without charging. Let’s be honest, he’s agent hasn’t received thousands of similar interview requests. Perhaps requests to get him to stop breakdancing any chance he gets. Check out his acting reel - horrible.

  12. Comment by Tim on 13 October 2007:

    I find it touching how Kosmo transformed from the cocky outgoing guy seen 30 seconds into his acting reel, into the shy wallflower seen in the first episode and then back into a confident outgoing guy at the end. No fakery there surely.

  13. Comment by Dave on 16 October 2007:

    Hey Donovan..sup man?
    I think Kosmo’s reply to Donovan was greedy n sick…uh well..his loss..

  14. Comment by Seduction Chronicles on 16 October 2007:

    His response was just a little strange is all. All the interview would have done was publicize him even more.

  15. Comment by Joe on 16 October 2007:

    If you want to break it down into dollars and cents then I ask you this:

    Are you making money on this site?
    With Kosmo’s interview would you have provided content on your site that would have made you money?
    So if you are profiting off of Kosmo’s interview, why shouldn’t he?

    Listen it’s not like he asked you for 10k to do a sit down conversation, he simply asked what he could back for his time.

  16. Comment by Dave on 16 October 2007:

    C’mon now..it’s obvious from what he said that he wanted to make some money out of this convo. with Donovan….I don’t think People on this web site would have used it for money making..it’s silly even to mention that…His behavior wasn’t absolutely even close to what a MPUA would of said or done….he looks like an immature actor…and he needs aloooot of work on his inner game.

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